To: tejek who wrote (370298 ) 2/7/2008 10:04:20 PM From: Joe NYC Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572186 Ted,Its depends on the school, the location and how many kids in a class. When you have 30 kids, its very difficult to try and deal with the 4 or 5 problems. If the problem kids are removed, it is possible to effectively teach 25 to 30 kids.Its been shown statistically that if you get the classroom population down to around 20, its gets much easier to manage a classroom with problem kids. Yeah, it may be more manageable, but I would rather have 30 without disruptive kids than 20 with the disruptive kids.However, the problem is too much education money is going to the suburban schools where there are few problems and not enough to inner city schools. New York City has no shortage of funds. New York City may be unique in this sense, since there aer a lot of resources available even in inner-city schools. But the result is still a disaster. But it is a disaster for the reason of how funds are misapplied. The problem kids (with learning or behavioural problems) suck most of the budget, with no results for the money spent, and normal kids are still shortchanged in the end, even though you started with very generous school budgets.In one school where I did a practicum, they move the problem kids out of the classroom to a special classroom where the teacher student ratio is closer to one on one. Exactly. Which is how you end up with some $20,000 to $40,000 budget for one kid that may be beyond help anyway. And the money goes out of the budget for the rest of the kids. With this kind of budget for one kid, you could pay assistant teachers for early grades, benefiting 25 kids. Joe