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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (21202)	2/13/2008 11:07:03 AM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224714

Carter claims to be a loyal American yet torpedoes the best interest of the USA at every opportunity. That's downright dangerous hypocrisy.

To: American Spirit who wrote (21202)	2/13/2008 1:08:14 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224714

Threee of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were ministers: John Witherspoon, Robert Treat Paine, and Lyman Hall One of the delegates who voted for the adoption of the Constitution was as well: Abraham Baldwin ourfoundingtruth.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------------------- More: James Madison making devout encouragement to Wm Bradford: ”[A] watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven.” (James Madison, encouraging William Bradford to be sure of his own salvation) “I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments, even the most rational and manly, than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and [who] are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare their unsatisfactoriness by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ; and I wish you may give in your evidence in this way.”(Madison urging William Bradford to make a public witness of his Christiianity) Message 24119477 -------------------------------------------------------------- Even Jefferson, unorthodox in his private religious beliefs - he was a small-U unitarian, was a regular church-goer - one evidence of devotion to his faith: Manasseh Cutler to Joseph Torrey, January 3, 1803. [page one] -- [page two] -- [page three] -- [page four] In this letter Manasseh Cutler informs Joseph Torrey that Thomas Jefferson "and his family have constantly attended public worship in the Hall" of the House of Representatives. Margaret Bayard Smith (1778-1844), a writer and social critic and wife of Samuel Harrison Smith, publisher of the National Intelligencer, of Jefferson's attendance at church services in the House of Representatives: "Jefferson during his whole administration was a most regular attendant. The seat he chose the first day sabbath, and the adjoining one, which his private secretary occupied, were ever afterwards by the courtesy of the congregation, left for him." Reminiscences. [left page] - [right page] Margaret Bayard Smith, 1837. Manuscript volume. (Copyprint of verso) "After his retirement to Monticello, Jefferson continued to attend church services, riding into town on horseback carrying a small folding chair of his own invention. He described these services in a letter to Thomas Cooper: "The court house is our common temple. Here Episcopalians and Presbyterians, Methodists and Baptists, meet together, join in hymning their Maker, listen with attention and devotion to each other's preachers and all mix in society in perfect harmony."" Message 24148223