To: Brumar89 who wrote (20329 ) 2/14/2008 2:14:32 PM From: neolib Read Replies (1) | Respond to You are now on record as a complete liar:I, not you, brought up the US (not NA) vs the world issue myself, so you have no reason to lie about me screwing up or being confused. Message 24309555 When one looks at the 10 warmest years of the past century, instead of seeing them all grouped in the past decade or two as one would think if human produced CO2 were driving the earth's climate, we see a big clump of warm years back in the 1930's. Within that cluster of warm years is the earth's warmest year of the past century, 1934. How does one account for this? Message 24311798 Please do show me such a graph. See my previous post, 2'nd graph. Please note that even this is just NH, but the SH lacks as much data, so the reconstructions are rather less reliable there. I don't see the hottest years in the 1930's. Why would you make such a odd statement?Why are you chattering about the dust bowl? That was in N. America only. Are you clueless that as you look at smaller and smaller geographic areas, you will find more and more anomalies. I'm pretty sure that you can find all sorts of locations in the USA which had their average hottest year on all sorts of different years, not just the 1930's or the 1990's. Does this surprise you? You can likely also find the average coldest years for small areas on any given year of the last century. So what? Message 24313497 US temperature measurements show 1934 as the hottest year and 1931, 1934, 1938, and 1939 as among the ten hottest years of the past century. Yet according to the University of East Anglia's temperatures, 1934 and the 1930's were not very warm at all for the world as a whole. Something is clearly amiss. You can claim the 1930's warming only happened in the US and was offset by cooling elsewhere in the world. Or one can suspect that something is wrong with temperature measurements elsewhere. It is a fact that the US has the longest and most extensive record of temperature measurements. Even in the US there is a suspected problem involving the urban heat island effect. Considering that many temperature stations in the thirld world are recent and most are in urban areas, its most likely the urban heat island effect is a much bigger problem with non-US temperature measurements. I, not you, brought up the US (not NA) vs the world issue myself, so you have no reason to lie about me screwing up or being confused.
