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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (21301)	2/15/2008 12:19:18 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Respond to of 224737

Excerpt from today's NY Times follows. If a new terrorist group is identified after Sat, intelligence officials will need to take the time to seek a warrant. Question: what if the crucial telephone call conveying the day & time to detonate a dirty bomb in NYC takes place during one of those lapses of surveillance??: >The lapsing of the deadline would have little practical effect on intelligence gathering. Intelligence officials would be able to intercept communications from Qaeda members or other identified terrorist groups for a year after the initial eavesdropping authorization for that particular group. If a new terrorist group is identified after Saturday, intelligence officials would not be able to use the broadened eavesdropping authority. They would be able to seek a warrant under the more restrictive standards in place for three decades through the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The White House-backed plan that the Senate approved would broaden the spying powers for six years and provide legal immunity to the utilities that helped in the eavesdropping without warrants that Mr. Bush approved after the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001. AT&T and other major carriers face about 40 multibillion-dollar suits from customers who say the utilities’ participation broke the law. The passage of the Senate measure, a major victory for Mr. Bush on a crucial national security question, inflamed the oratory on Wednesday. Mr. Bush accused the Democratic-led House of needlessly prolonging the debate at the expense of the country’s safety. “At this moment,” he said, “somewhere in the world terrorists are planning new attacks on our country. Their goal is to bring destruction to our shores that will make Sept. 11 pale by comparison.”<

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (21301)	2/17/2008 12:51:00 AM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 224737

Bush's fear-mongering about terrorism is evil. No one believes him, he's just trying to close down one avenue to indict him for high crimes after he's out of office due to his illegal spying on Americans campaign. I doubt his illegal spying has netted a single terrorist. But they've probably spied on plenty of democrats, peace groups, reporters, lawyers and anyone else they want to know more about. This is one step toward tyranny and it's illegal as hell.