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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: maceng2 who wrote (20412)2/16/2008 10:05:31 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36921
 
Does the sun cause global Warming? Are you or is that page saying that only 8.9% of the people believe the suns causes the daily warming. Are you saying that only 8.9% of the people believe the suns causes the seasonal warming in spring thru the fall.

I call that an obtuse supposition or even a faulty statement and explanation of a supposition.

I would hope 100% would believe and know the sun causes the daily warming and the seasonal warming that changes the temperature by many tens of degrees.

I also believe the CO2 has little to no effect beyond it's PPM vs other gases on the rate of cooling nightly and seasonally and even longer periods. And it is possible that the physical properties of CO2 in an earth environment actually causes a small increase in the rate of cooling nightly and seasonally and even longer periods. I would suppose that cooling rate effect would be far less than any current supposed warming rate even by orders of magnitude.

But if it causes more growth, that may cause slightly more warming. But I am not certain those effects come to any even fractional part of the effects that can modify the percentage of cloud cover in the atmosphere.

In this picture where we know the 3% warmer sun hits the north pole in winter and the 3% warmer sun hits the south pole in summer there is an interesting observation. Now is the previous sentence obtuse... LOL.... OK the South Pole's summer is during the North Poles winter.. More or less obtuse.???

The arctic has an Annual Mean Temperature of -15 degrees and the Ant Arctic has an Annual Mean Temperature of -20 to -50.
Is this a solar effect.