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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (256785)	2/16/2008 11:48:11 PM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

By Jewish law, he is Jewish. So for him, it depends whether he wants to say that he's Jewish or not. If he says he is, then he is. If he says he isn't then he isn't. I think what you are saying is that Jews will consider him Jewish regardless of what he thinks of himself, right? The Jewish law part of your sentence says he's Jewish no matter what, but then you say he can declare himself to not be Jewish, and that will be the way things are - which is it? If he tells a Jewish person that he is not Jewish, are they going to reply "yes, you are", or are they going to reply "oy vey, lost another one.."? It sounds like he's just embarrased about being Jewish I don't think so, I think he doesn't consider himself Jewish - end of story. After all, if you aren't Jewish, you don't have to accept the legitimacy or follow the rules of what is laid out in 'Jewish law', whatever that is. I'm sure there are many cults that consider the children of cultmembers to be members of the cult. The children who have left the cult don't have to think of themselves that way, because they aren't members of the cult, end of story. To say that they actually are members of the cult but are embarrassed about it and hiding it is pretty creepy. He doesn't know the religion of my mother, I've never known the religion of his, it's been a non-issue. Back to this guy - regardless of what "Jewish law" says, I've known this person for 20 years, and never known he had a Jewish mother. He obviously doesn't consider himself to be Jewish (he's a declared atheist), although obviously he's the son of a Jewess. You really think there is something different about him compared to the exact same person who's mother happened to be Catholic? If so, what? it can't be something you want to proclaim in Dubai. That's the first thing that went through my head! Don't tell anyone I told you....:-)