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To: E. Charters who wrote (2693)	2/18/2008 3:37:40 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17069

EC, You make a lot of good points, but back to the original point, both French and Swiss consume the highest percentage of calories from saturated fat (accompanied by usual cholesterol) yet they are among the healthiest populations with some of the lowest incidents of CV disease. Other countries (including the US) consume a lot less saturated fat, and we are told that saturated fat and the dietary cholesterol is what causes CV disease. There are countries - such as republic of former USSR such as Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbajian where saturated is extremely low - 5 to 7% and these countries have some of the highest rates of heart disease. (BTW, France and Switzerland consume around 15% of calories in form of saturated fat). So, IMO, any kind of avoidance of saturated fat and dietary cholesterol is a waste of time. BTW, this was one of the thing that always bothered me about the Zone series of books, by Barry Sears - I am not sure if you are familiar with them. His advice of avoidance of saturated fat seemed a little contradictory with the advice to eat sufficient protein - which does come with saturated fat. Sears's advice to avoid animal fat was based on the fact that it contained high concentrations of arachidonic acid, especially in beef fat. But the answer is that as bad as the diet of grains is for people, so it is for animals. Grass fed animals have much different composition of their fat, having more Omega 3s, fewer Omega 6s, and more CLA. So while the fat from the sickly animals fed at feedlot is not the most desirable thing to eat, we should really differentiate. Fat from a grass fed animals is just fine, with all the cholesterol in it. I am certainly planning on eating more of saturated fat, as some good, grass fed beef and bison etc. slowly becomes available. BTW, I was very impressed when 2 of the store where I buy food started to carry organic milk from grass fed cows. Unfortunately, it is pasteurized (to comply with the stringent laws in NY state) but it is not homogenized. I need to find butter from grass fed milk. Regarding your other point, French are certainly sun worshipers - in the summer. The most beautiful tans I have seen were last year on Cote d'Azur. But in the winter, they are as much, if not more screwed as we are. It may not seem that way, but France is more northerly located tham most of the US. For example, if Paris were in North America, it would be deep in Canada. Joe