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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (7125)2/21/2008 11:19:28 AM
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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (7125)2/21/2008 9:53:51 PM
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American scientists favor turning a greenhouse gas back into gasoline
By Kenneth Chang The New York Times
Thursday, February 21, 2008

If two scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory are correct, people will still
be driving gasoline-powered cars 50 years from now, churning out heat-trapping carbon
dioxide into the atmosphere ? and yet that carbon dioxide will not contribute to
global warming.

The scientists, Jeffrey Martin and William Kubic Jr., are proposing a concept, which
they have patriotically named Green Freedom, for removing carbon dioxide from the
air and turning it back into gasoline.

The idea is simple. Air would be blown over a liquid solution of potassium carbonate,
which would absorb the carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide would then be extracted
and subjected to chemical reactions that would turn it into fuel: methanol, gasoline
or jet fuel.

This process could transform carbon dioxide from an unwanted, climate-changing pollutant
into a vast resource for renewable fuels. The closed cycle ? equal amounts of carbon
dioxide emitted and removed ? would mean that cars, trucks and airplanes using the
synthetic fuels would no longer be contributing to global warming.

Although they have not yet built a synthetic fuel factory, or even a small prototype,
the scientists say it is all based on existing technology.

"Everything in the concept has been built, is operating or has a close cousin
that is operating," Martin said.

The Los Alamos proposal does not violate any laws of physics, and other scientists,
like George Olah, a Nobel Prize-winning chemist at the University of Southern California,
and Klaus Lackner, a professor of geophysics at Columbia University, have independently
suggested similar ideas. Martin said he and Kubic had worked out their concept in
more detail than previous proposals.

There is, however, a major caveat that explains why no one has built a carbon-dioxide-to-gasoline
factory: it requires a great deal of energy.

To deal with that problem, the Los Alamos scientists say they have developed a number
of innovations, including a new electrochemical process for detaching the carbon
dioxide after it has been absorbed into the potassium carbonate solution. The process
has been tested in Kubic's garage, in a simple apparatus that looks like mutant
Tupperware.

Even with those improvements, providing the energy to produce gasoline on a commercial
scale ? say, 750,000 gallons a day ? would require a dedicated power plant, preferably
a nuclear one, the scientists say.

According to their analysis, their concept, which would cost about $5 billion to
build, could produce gasoline at an operating cost of $1.40 a gallon and would turn
economically viable when the price at the pump hits $4.60 a gallon, taking into
account construction costs and other expenses in getting the gas to the consumer.
With some additional technological advances, the break-even price would drop to
$3.40 a gallon, they said.

A nuclear reactor is not required technologically. The same chemical processes could
also be powered by solar panels, for instance, but the economics become far less
favorable.

Martin and Kubic presentrf their Green Freedom concept Wednesday at the Alternative
Energy Now conference in Lake Buena Vista, Florida. They planned a simple demonstration
within a year and a larger prototype within a couple of years after that.

A commercial nuclear-powered gasoline factory would have to jump some high hurdles
before it could be built, and thousands of them would be needed to fully replace
petroleum, but this part of the global warming problem has no easy solutions.

In the efforts to reduce humanity's emissions of carbon dioxide, now nearing
30 billion metric tons a year, most of the attention so far has focused on large
stationary sources, like power plants where, conceptually at least, one could imagine
a shift from fuels that emit carbon dioxide ? coal and natural gas ? to those that
do not ? nuclear, solar and wind. Another strategy, known as carbon capture and
storage, would continue the use of fossil fuels but trap the carbon dioxide and
then pipe it underground where it would not affect the climate.

But to stabilize carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere would require drastic cuts
in emissions, and similar solutions do not exist for small, mobile sources of carbon
dioxide. Nuclear and solar-powered cars do not seem plausible anytime soon.

Three solutions have been offered: hydrogen-powered fuel cells, electric cars and
biofuels. Biofuels like ethanol are gasoline substitutes produced from plants like
corn, sugar cane or switch grass, and the underlying idea is the same as Green Freedom.
Plants absorb carbon dioxide as they grow, balancing out the carbon dioxide emitted
when they are burned. But growing crops for fuel takes up wide swaths of land.

Hydrogen-powered cars emit no carbon dioxide, but producing hydrogen, by splitting
water or some other chemical reaction, requires copious energy, and if that energy
comes from coal-fired power plants, then the problem has not been solved. Hydrogen
is also harder to store and move than gasoline and would require an overhaul of
the world's energy infrastructure.

Electric cars also push the carbon dioxide problem to the power plant. And electric
cars have typically been limited to a range of tens of miles as opposed to the hundreds
of miles that can be driven on a tank of gas.

Gasoline, it turns out, is an almost ideal fuel (except that it produces 19.4 pounds
of carbon dioxide per gallon). It is easily transported, and it generates more energy
per volume than most alternatives. If it can be made out of carbon dioxide in the
air, the Los Alamos concept may mean there is little reason to switch, after all.
The concept can also be adapted for jet fuel; for jetliners, neither hydrogen nor
batteries seem plausible alternatives.

"This is the only one that I have seen that addresses all of the concerns that
are out there right now," Martin said.

Other scientists said the Los Alamos proposal perhaps looked promising but could
not evaluate it fully because the details had not been published.

"It's definitely worth pursuing," said Martin Hoffert, a professor
of physics at New York University. "It's not that new an idea. It has a
couple of pieces to it that are interesting."

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