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To: Peter V who wrote (105995)	2/21/2008 3:43:17 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

I really think we can contain terrorism with the sneered at co-ordinated intelligence and police activity among many countries. It would have a commando-style super swat team military component - but no invading and adopting countries. It's time for us to quit this dumbass "world police" job. If the world want a military police force, let's contribute, but not BE the damn police on OUR dime. We're just chumps while other countries give their citizens social benefits like health care.

To: Peter V who wrote (105995)	2/21/2008 3:55:16 PM
From: Smiling Bob	Respond to of 306849

I'm sure we have at least one or two spy satellites that aren't destined for tgt practice. At least throw up some of those model airplanes. Boots are so primeval.

To: Peter V who wrote (105995)	2/21/2008 7:45:36 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Peter, since you decided to bring up the subject, I guess I have the right to respond. Maybe it's because I spent 2 years in Iraq, and was a member of the Iraq Survey Group, that gives me a different perspective than yours about the threat Saddam posed to Americans and US interests. Take Somalia, for example.. Remember "Blackhawk Down" in 1993.. Now just what could that have to do with Saddam? Read the links below (the first is the original document from Saddam, the latter the translation). cnsnews.com cnsnews.com And some more links detailing the response from the Iraqi Intelligence Service to Saddam, detailing possible terrorist groups they could utilize to accomplish his orders. cnsnews.com Btw, these documents was leaked to the public without authorization. But once in the open it's hard for any objective person to conclude that Saddam was not intending on attacking Americans outside of Iraq as early as 1992/93, or that he "hated" Islamists such at Al Qai'da.. And it's quite possible that the Iraqi Intelligence Service may have been directly behind the events that led to "Blackhawk Down".. And here's another tidbit for you.. One of our "most wanted" terrorists during the time I was there, who many of our sources indicated was very close to Abu Mu'sab Al Zarqawi, was Muhammad Hila Hamad Ubaydi, aka, Abu Ayman. Now Abu Ayman is interesting because he, like many other Ansar Al Sunna and Al Qai'da cell leaders were former Ba'thist intelligence officers. In fact, Abu Ayman was the aide to the Chief of Iraqi Intelligence. (here he is erroneously listed as actually being the former Chief of Staff). jamestown.org Now, if Saddam and his Ba'thist cronies, "hated" Al Qa'ida so badly, why is it that so many of them were later discovered to be intimately involved with Al Qai'da in Iraq? This is only just a tidbit, that's publicly available, for the American people to see.. I can tell you there is far more than the American public, unfortunately, will likely never see.. Hawk