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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (4778)	2/22/2008 9:57:55 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

However, for a "Freedom Loving Conservative" to suggest that democratically elected governments can not change policies that are economically disastrous is logically bizarre. Nothing bizarre about it at all when you're voting on taxpayer paid benefits but fewer than half pay income tax. Do you really think that free riders would vote to repeal their benefits, no matter how expensive they become?

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (4778)	2/22/2008 3:11:55 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 42652

However, for a "Freedom Loving Conservative" to suggest that democratically elected governments can not change policies that are economically disastrous is logically bizarre. Its not logically bizarre, or really bizarre in any other way. It would be an example of poor morale, or a defeatist attitude. It also isn't really my opinion. 1 - Many of these policies are harmful, but they are rarely disastrous, and when they really become disastrous they can often be changed or eliminated. 2 - Even when they are not disastrous they can often be changed, just not eliminated. People may accept the freebie in a different form as long as they keep getting it. All the best educated, wealthiest, and democratically elected governments in the world have followed the Briish example. Actually very few wealthy countries have followed the British example. They generally don't have anything like NHS. There is not one example of failure It could be argued that they are all examples of failure, or at the very least that the worst of the programs are failures. Not ending the program doesn't equal success. Of course success is often subjective. It depends your objectives, the criteria that you use to measure those objectives, and how you interpret the data to apply the criteria, all of which have at least a subjective element. Instead of trying to tear down what appears to be popular and working, why not provide an example of an alternative model. Our current model may be better, at least than something like the NHS. A better alternative would be a more free market one, with special tax treatment for health insurance and a more reasonable legal culture and system.