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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (257303)	2/22/2008 6:44:37 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You started with Jefferson.....name some more in the last eight years. I read recently that the Rep corruption list of big names is up to 15. Today's indictment makes it 16. That should scare you, Nadine. These are our legislators and their corruption does far more harm to us than Clinton's libido ever could. These people....these Bush cronies and these right-wing, evangelical grounded Republicans are a sad caricature of what the Grand Old Party was 50 years ago. They should be forced in shame to change their name, and they don't deserve your loyalty.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (257303)	2/22/2008 7:49:48 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Read it and weep Nadine. (R)'s far outnumber (D)'s in corruption, sleaze, kiddie-sex and all other classes of crimes and reprehensible behavior. talkingpointsmemo.com My theory is that the people that vote for them are stupid and easily fooled, and, over time, they just start assuming EVERYONE is that way. Whaddaya think?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (257303)	2/23/2008 2:06:14 PM
From: Katelew	Respond to of 281500

Nadine, even the WSJ has despaired of the string of corruption in the modern-day Republican Party. I never thought I'd see this kind of editorial but am relieved by it. The country needs a strong two-party system, and hopefully the Rs will get busy remaking the GOP. Renzi and Republicans February 23, 2008; Page A8 Extortion and money laundering are usually the province of gangsters, not Western Congressmen. That changed yesterday with the indictment of GOP Representative Rick Renzi of Arizona on charges that he used his seat on the House Natural Resources Committee to enrich himself through a trail of payoffs on land deals. Prosecutors allege that Mr. Renzi used his clout to push land sales that could then be traded for other property owned by the federal government. Companies that wanted to trade acreage in exchange for federal land they considered promising for mining opportunities were encouraged to buy property belonging to one of Mr. Renzi's business partners. In return, they were promised a smooth ride with the committee on the land swaps. When the sales went through, the Congressman allegedly got a cut of the proceeds from his pal, at least $733,000. Mr. Renzi has already said he isn't seeking re-election this year, and his lawyer said yesterday that "We will fight these charges until he is vindicated." But the indictment alone will remind many voters of the kind of corruption and arrogance that contributed to the GOP's defeat in 2006. Other Republicans are still under investigation for misusing Congressional power, and further indictments can't be ruled out. The Renzi episode is the residue of what might be called the Tom DeLay era of Congressional rule, when keeping power for its own sake became the GOP goal. Current Republican leaders, now and perhaps for years to come in the minority, tell us they resent our antiearmarking editorials. But Republicans aren't going to win back voter trust if they don't once again become the party of reform and modest government, instead of dubious land swaps.