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To: TimF who wrote (111690)	2/24/2008 3:37:23 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

>>You aren't paying the3 billionaires portion of the government. In fact the very rich pay a very large share of taxes.<< but not a share equal to their share of the total wealth - and that is the meaningful point that the manipulative talking points never spoon feed to the masses. therefore, someone is subsidizing them, although, i admit i haven't figured out if it is me or not. i might be subsidized, too, which is also wrong. if i own 90% of america and i only pay 80% of the expenses, someone is subsidizing the other 10%. this is a very basic economic concept. as for your second argument, i'd argue that 90% of the military supports 90% of the wealth... so even if a dollar isn't going directly to the uber rich, 90% of the money sunk into the military benefits the military is directly protecting their 90%. as for taxes and income - that doesn't make it right. you don't think it is fundamentally unfair to expect those who own 90% of america to pay for 90% of government, do you? if so, why, and who should subsidize their portion of government? so, what is your real world plan to turn the usa into a fiscal responsible nation that pays as it goes and pays down the $9 trillion in debt - especially given you believe things will get even less libertarian. i must've missed it.

To: TimF who wrote (111690)	2/24/2008 12:16:40 PM
From: Freedom Fighter	Respond to of 132070

Tim, You are wasting your time. It's obvious the rich pay way more than their fair share of the cost of the public services of the nation from their "private" wealth and labor. People that deny that are either delusional, lacking areas of intelligence, or don't like the idea of unequal levels of "private" property. They are OK with the idea of some percentage of the "public" having the ability to confiscate the private property of others to achieve their personal goals. Basically, they are socialists. In that case, it's not worth a debate. You are dealing with people that don't understand basic economics and that don't respect individual liberty, freedom and the importance of private property. They are entitled to think whatever they want, but it's hard to debate someone that is an economic moron and that has an entirely different value system than the one on which the country was built.