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To: Suma who wrote (257455)	2/24/2008 12:41:20 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

The why is because there are significant numbers of hate-filled people, many of whom feel disenfranchised and direct blame from themselves onto others. Sometimes I think most Christians don't even know their own scriptures. They don't read for themselves, other than highlighted, truncated passages. There must be a gazillion new testament scriptures that command us to love one another. There are none that command us to judge one another. Judgment and vengeance are reserved for God. The scriptures are quite specific and plain-spoken on the matter. In fact, there are many that serve as warnings to us about pre-judging......such as, 'the first shall be last' at the end of times, or 'the meek shall inherit the earth' and 'blessed are the peacemakers'. I live among evangelicals. They're well-intentioned people as a group, but their focus of attention is a little bizarre, IMO.

To: Suma who wrote (257455)	2/24/2008 12:49:18 PM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 281500

are we that much different from other countries?, i would say yes to the better; Saudi men arrested for 'flirting' Young men in a shopping centre in Saudi Arabia (archive) Relations between the sexes outside marriage is against the law Prosecutors in Saudi Arabia have begun investigating 57 young men who were arrested on Thursday for flirting with girls at shopping centres in Mecca. The men are accused of wearing indecent clothes, playing loud music and dancing in order to attract the attention of girls, the Saudi Gazette reported. They were arrested following a request of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. The mutaween enforce Saudi Arabia's conservative brand of Islam, Wahhabism. Earlier in the month, the authorities enforced a ban on the sale of red roses and other symbols used in many countries to mark Valentine's Day. The ban is partly because of the connection with a "pagan Christian holiday", and also because the festival itself is seen as encouraging relations between the sexes outside marriage, punishable by law in the kingdom. The Prosecution and Investigation Commission said it had received reports of such "bad" behaviour by 57 young men at a number of shopping centres in the holy city of Mecca, the Saudi Gazette said. The guardians of some of the men defended their actions, however, saying they would regularly get together at the weekend to have fun without ever violating laws governing the segregation of the sexes, it added.