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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: gg cox who wrote (4885)2/25/2008 10:42:16 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
Well it is a "commoN" we use it when we come into this world and along the way and use it big time on the way out..

We use food and clothing every day, too. Are they part of the commons? What about housing?

I submit that health care is a "common" to you only because your government has chosen to frame it so and you are accustomed to that way of looking at it. Public health is the only aspect of health care that is intrinsically part of the commons. Your version is contrived. If y'all want to treat it that way, that's fine. I'm just trying to establish that it is a non-standard treatment, not the default.

The point is, they can not opt out or weasel out...

I well understand your point. We are communicating clearly, I think, and in agreement. They are sneaky thieves.

I'm trying to get info from you to inform my issue, which is those who take more than they contribute. Negative-contributers, I'll call them instead of free-riders.

The amount of provincial health care fee is determined when taxpayers fill out their federal annual return.

What I still don't know is if everybody (adult) in Canada pays something or if you only pay if you have income above some level. I need this info to get a sense of the extent of your pool of negative contributers.



To: gg cox who wrote (4885)2/25/2008 1:48:23 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
Medical care isn't provided (even in countries with single payer, or even fully socialized health care systems) as "the commons" (maybe the governments call it that but a dog still has four legs if you call its tail a leg). Its provided as services to individuals. The government may pay for it but that doesn't make it commons.

Maybe the government responses to pandemics might be "the commons", but treatments for individuals are not.