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To: Lane3 who wrote (51035)	2/29/2008 6:08:56 PM
From: KyrosL	Respond to of 543806

I think most men, black or white, would have been thrilled to have married Michelle and attended the church she prefers <g>

To: Lane3 who wrote (51035)	2/29/2008 6:18:30 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543806

Is that "one-drop" rule still around? I know that a black in the south is any person with any known African black ancestry. And gosh, look at him. No way could he pass for "white". How much choice did he really have?

To: Lane3 who wrote (51035)	2/29/2008 8:36:53 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 543806

Actually, if you read his book, you will find that others chose him to be black. He talks about various encounters in which, at a fairly young age, he discovered he was treated differently. The most vivid that come to mind at the moment occured at the private school he attended in Hawaii. He then began to come to terms with being "different."

To: Lane3 who wrote (51035)	3/1/2008 1:48:05 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543806

>>I don't have a clue when or how he chose to be black but he clearly chose that. You can tell by the woman he married and the church he joined. Both are emphatically black. He may not be immersed in his racial identity like so many, but it seems clear to me that he made that choice.<< Karen - I don't think Obama ever had a choice to make. His skin is fairly dark, and his hair is curly. In this country, he would most likely be seen as black by just about everyone, whether they knew of his parentage or not. Ask any person who has one black parent and one white parent, and he or she will tell you that there is no choice involved. Black people will accept mixed-race people as black, but white people will not accept them as white. Note that nobody has ever said that Tiger Woods was the first asian golfer to win this or that tournament. That has nothing to do with any choice Tiger made. - Allen

To: Lane3 who wrote (51035)	3/1/2008 7:18:45 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 543806

You are talking about how he acts. He chose to join the black community, but we can't choose the color of our skin. He chose a "black" community- he didn't choose to "be" black- that's genetic. He may be mixed race, but the expression of his genes have given him what most people in this country (save for the minority who somehow think he's white) think of as black skin. The two things seem completely different to me- gene expression of the skin, and behavior. I had NO idea people confused the two things so completely.