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To: epicure who wrote (51081)	3/1/2008 12:27:24 AM
From: freelyhovering	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542535

The 'excitement' of a whipping--even if it is fearful--is sexualized by a child--not consciously--but leads to sezualized repititions, either as the spanker or spankee again. JUST THE FACTS. NO WAY TO ARGUE AROUND IT. I KID YOU NOT.

To: epicure who wrote (51081)	3/1/2008 8:59:05 AM
From: jrhana	Respond to of 542535

<There Elizabeth experienced an emotional crisis that historians believe affected her for the rest of her life.[21] Seymour, approaching forty but with a natural charm and "a powerful sex appeal",[21] engaged in romps and horseplay with the fifteen-year-old Elizabeth. These included entering her bedroom in his nightgown, tickling her and slapping her on the buttocks. This state of affairs was put to a stop by Catherine Parr, after she discovered the pair in an embrace.> <Historians have speculated that Thomas Seymour had put her off sexual relationships......> en.wikipedia.org

To: epicure who wrote (51081)	3/6/2008 1:07:55 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 542535

...Here are some more oddities about the study. According to this report: "the study found that 29 percent of the male and 21 percent of the female students had verbally coerced sex from another person....The percentages of those who physically forced sex were much lower: 1.7 percent of the men and 1.2 percent of the women...." Don't these percentages seem very high? Especially for the women? And get this, "Straus found that 15 percent of the men and 13 percent of the women had insisted on sex without a condom at least once in the past year. Using the four-step corporal punishment scale, Straus found that of the group with the lowest score on the corporal punishment scale, 12.5 percent had insisted on unprotected sex. In contrast, 25 percent of students in the highest corporal punishment group engaged in this type of risky sex." 13 percent of the women insisted that the man not use a condom? More importantly, I believe that there is a causal connection between child abuse (rather than spanking) and later problems of violence but to me a connection between the kid being spanked and later engaging in risky sex is especially suggestive that the connection is a risk-loving person. Children who take a lot of risks, like running out on to the street a lot, are going to get spanked more. Later these same children also engage in risky activities. Not having seen the data I would be willing to bet that spanking is also correlated with skydiving, not wearing your seatbelt, gambling, and many other risky behaviors which are plausible not caused by spanking... marginalrevolution.com