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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (5108)	3/1/2008 10:30:29 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

<<<." Roosevelt looked back, and not entirely approvingly, to the framing of the Constitution. At its inception, the nation had grown "under the protection of certain inalienable political rights -- among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures.">>> According the Constitution, women didn't have the right to vote and Black people could be kept as slaves. Time goes by. Conditions change. We progress. " Roosevelt looked back, ... to the framing of the Constitution. At its inception, the nation had grown "under the protection of certain inalienable political rights -- among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures." But, he added, over time, "we have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence." As Roosevelt saw it, "necessitous men are not free men," not least because those who are hungry and jobless "are the stuff out of which dictatorships are made." He echoed the words of the Declaration of Independence, urging a kind of Declaration of Interdependence: "In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all -- regardless of station, race, or creed." <<<Now, you claim a right to health care. What codification of that can you produce? None. And what force do you have at your disposal to enforce it? None. Ergo, there is no right to health care. It's as simple as that.>>> Your simple notions are contradictory: 1. Decentralization and privatization: take power away from the government; and 2. Law & order, i.e. let the government get tough by enacting laws to protect your negative rights. It is contradictory. Maybe not you, but others on this thread argue that government can't be trusted to deliver a letter, run a post office, run a railroad, or even to run a sanitation system. "They say: The government can't be trusted to pick up the garbage, yet it can be trusted to run a bigger and more powerful criminal justice system. You can't trust the government to deliver a letter, but you can trust it with your life (well, not yours--they always figure it will be someone else, usually someone with a darker tone of skin, and someone a lot poorer than they are). They think the government can be trusted to run a fair court system, to arrest people properly; put them on trial, and kill them--without making a mistake. But, the government can't be trusted to run a sewer or water system; that should be privatized. But it can be trusted to decide who should live or die. "