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To: Secret_Agent_Man who wrote (360474)	3/2/2008 12:09:33 PM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

An old post, but i will let its brevity state my case. And i dedicate this post to a great man, Yeshahayu Leibowitz. The post was in response to the EU at the time of 2/27/2006 for dare saying they would get food to Gaza(The Jerusalem Post was appalled at such a decision.) Regards zeus, i have not read his post nor intend to <<Posted by: otraque In reply to: Amaunet who wrote msg# 6266 Date:2/27/2006 4:04:28 PM Post #of 7930 i posted this to a right-wing Israeli newspaper where they pick and choose what will be published. They DID publish my post(to my surprise:) which reads <<i am pleased that EU has taken this action. Arabs, as one well knows are a semitic people, i find it so sad that Israel has become a bastion of anti-semitism in their now blind hatred of the Palestinians and the arab people. Yeshayahu Leibowitz prophesized that Israel would lose its' soul over the the matter of Palestine and the occupation. I have great respect for the late Yeshayahu Leibowitz, a prophet he is indeed, but a deep sadness his prophecy it seems is coming true. Max G.>> i attach a reference <<For well over a century, Jewish intellectuals—and especially those German-Jewish academics who constituted the mainstream of Jewish philosophy in the last century—have had serious doubts concerning the legitimacy and desirability of harnessing the interests of the Jewish people to the worldly power of a political state. Only the Holocaust, the most extreme demonstration of the evil of Jewish powerlessness imaginable, succeeded in turning the objections of the intellectuals to the Jewish state into an embarrassment, for the most part driving their opposition underground. Yet Jewish intellectuals, even in Israel, never became fully reconciled to the empowerment of the Jewish people entailed in the creation of a Jewish state. For example, Martin Buber, then living in Jerusalem, argued in 1958 that the belief in the efficacy of power embraced by so many Jews in his generation had been learned from Hitler. And with time, this manner of discussing the Jewish national power—which had been a staple of Jewish anti-Zionist rhetoric prior to the Holocaust—began to regain its previous legitimacy. Thus, Israel's most influential philosopher( edit: he was also a class A physicist that was an intructor to Zeev Hed, and who Zeev even admitted to me that, yes, "Yeshayahu Leibowitz was a great man"--max) that was , Yeshayahu Leibowitz of the Hebrew University, had no difficulty calling the Israeli armed forces "Judeo-Nazis," and declared that Israel would soon be engaging in the "mass expulsion and slaughter of the Arab population" and "setting up concentration camps." Similarly, Jacob Talmon of the Hebrew University, Israel's most respected historian, asserted that "there is no longer any aim or achievement that can justify ... twentieth-century battle," arguing that Israeli leaders who justified warfare on the grounds of national interest or historical rights were a throwback to the "Devil's accomplices in the last two generations ... [who] warped the soul of millions and all but exterminated the Jewish people." >>