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To: axial who wrote (25671)3/2/2008 3:56:16 PM
From: Frank A. Coluccio  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 46821
 
Hi Jim.

Why would a Tier One backbone provider (the largest of whom are also last mile service providers now) look any less favorably towards my consuming 1 MB of backbone capacity using Skype than, say, consuming 20 MB while uploading (or downloading) an image to (from) Flickr or YouTube? I should think that they'd be twenty times more delighted with the former than the latter, although who's kiddin' who here? Where would the backbone providers be if all traffic were to cease flowing entirely? (Although that is another discussion in itself, so I won't digress on it here.) But it's not really about this root level of economics, after all now. Is it.

Also, while this makes for an interesting discussion, which I believe we've started having here several times in the past but never quite resolved, I do not subscribe to the argument that either Skype or its end users are getting away with a free ride, since the Internet's backbones are, in the final analysis, funded by subscribers. Are they not? And one would be hard pressed to suggest a method of allocating those subscribers fees once they are paid, which itself is another set of conversations all its own.

You asked: "... what makes Skype "better" than, say, Vonage as a VoIP app?"

Interestingly, I had this same discussion last night. Skype has a tendency to misbehave at times. I'd say this was relatively infrequent, depending on one's tolerance, or brief enough in nature to make it less than deterring (although there was a period of about two or three months last year when I began to wonder).

Sometimes Skype will drop out for an moment or two, or it will begin stuttering or manifest in some weird-sounding echo effect that you'd expect to hear in a 1950s B horror movie, after which the application re-acquires and returns to normal. In the absence of these anomalies, which normally last no longer than a few seconds, however, the sound quality one gets when using Skype is eminently superior to POTS and cellular due to the broader frequency response built into its codecs. It's been characterized as allowing one to experience a sense of immersion, in fact, tantamount to "being there", whereby participants sense they are all collocated.

"Does Vonage ignore standards? Doesn't Skype rely (when terminating at a POTS destination) on standards?

Yes, they both employ wares that conform to lower layer standards, even when not terminating POTS calls. Otherwise, in the case of Skype at least, the Internet's routers would not be able to make any sense of or know where to route the packets being sent. Skype's mystique lies mainly behind encryption and its propriety directory makeup, along with a host of methods it uses through cyphering that have the effect of obfuscating the status of its dedicated servers (of which there are relatively few) and the content it manages, which consists of both voice and routing and administrative (membership list information, time stamping, accounting, etc.) data.

See: file:///D:/Skype/blackhat-eads-skype.pdf

"Malware designed for Windows is targeted at the largest installed base in the world: is that a standard? Maybe not a de jure standard, but certainly a de facto standard."

Absolutely. The cracker community is probably better organized than our ability to defend against them, and they do exchange, and in effect, abide by their own norms. Call them standards, if you wish, although I suspect you'd get an argument from them if you did :)

So those script kiddies who want to make their mark, who want the widest possible success, target Windows: they attack the OS standard. In that sense, their software is absolutely standards-based, because if it weren't, its success (impact) would be diminished."

While I agree there is collaboration amongst malfolk, that shouldn't suggest that any number of uniquely different methods couldn't be employed to hack an OS, so in this respect we differ on the need for a "standard" here, despite the need for respecting the standard that is being attacked.

"Is there a Skype for Windows?"

There is a Skype version tuned uniquely for all popular operating systems, I think.
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"Getting away from specifics, the principle is that whether you're writing malware or end-user friendly applications, you want to reach the widest possible audience - thus maximizing your chances of success. ... To the extent that an app creates operability or interoperability problems (and thus, functionality problems) by non-adherence to standards, its chances of success are proportionally diminished."

Again, this touches on part of the discussion I had last night. The reason why Skype is chosen far more frequently than Gizmo (another VoIP application with attributes similar to those of Skype, but tailored primarily to WiFi; see: gizmovoip.com ) is NOT because of the standards they do, or do not, abide by. It comes down to the number of members in the group, as a form of validation of Metcalfe's Law. And aside from the fact that it is generally free and easy to use, it is in large part because Skype has hundreds of millions of users (vs. significantly far fewer subscribers using any other VoIP application) that it usually wins, hands down, and not because it employs or ignores standards that are any better or worse than anyone else's.

FAC

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To: axial who wrote (25671)3/2/2008 5:31:27 PM
From: Frank A. Coluccio  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 46821
 
Correction - silly me.. I posted my local file name of the Skype document I cited earlier, instead of its title and Web link:
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Silver Needle in the Skype
By Philippe BIONDI

March 2nd and 3rd, 2006 - EADS Corporate Research Center — DCR/STI/CIT Lab

blackhat.com
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And another critique of this analysis, still:

Skype Unveiled - Silver Needle in the Skype

At recent Blackhat Europe, Philippe BIONDI and Fabrice DESCLAUX published their latest investigation on Skype titiled “Silver Needle in the Skype“. Previously a test by Network World studied the cryptography algorithm underneath Skype and drew a conclusion that Skype is security enough for end users. Another whitepaper by Tom Berson expressed the similar viewpoint. But, with heavy reverse engineering of Skype, Philippe and Fabrice investigated deeply how Skype operates and exchange information. The following is their conclusion:


Cont.: hi2005.wordpress.com

... which points to yet another:

Top Ten Concerns to Skype Security (a compilation of vintage 2005)

hi2005.wordpress.com

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To: axial who wrote (25671)3/13/2008 12:19:40 AM
From: Frank A. Coluccio  Respond to of 46821
 
INNOVATION: Not Made In Japan
Feb 25, 2008 | BusinessWeek

Once upon a time, the country was a leader in technology. Now it's struggling to find its place in the digital age. Can an entrenched corporate culture change?

Heard of DoCoMo? Probably not, unless you happen to live in Japan. NTT DoCoMo is one of the world's biggest wireless phone companies. It operates in a ferociously competitive market, boasts about 50 million customers and has been known to produce cutting-edge technology. By all rights it ought to be a star performer in the increasingly global business of wireless communications. Yet DoCoMo's brand is still virtually unknown outside its home country. This is one story that could've had a very different ending. At the turn of the century, DoCoMo executives announced they were setting out to conquer the world. Their company's star mobile Internet application, known as i-mode, was leading the pack in its home market, and DoCoMo planned to leverage that success into a bid to dictate wireless Internet standards around the world. The company went on a buying spree, trying to gain footholds by purchasing stakes in overseas companies—stakes that soon made for painful losses, and not much else, when the dot-com bubble popped soon thereafter.

[ with a hat tip going to Michael Spector for the pointer ]

Cont.: newsweek.com

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