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To: Road Walker who wrote (11818)3/3/2008 9:07:09 PM
From: Joe NYC  Respond to of 149317
 
John,

They are masters at managing expectations... and she was raising them. Not like them at all.

I think it is a do or die tomorrow for her, so the normal game of expectations does not apply as it did before. She needs to win both OH and TX, even if it is by one vote.

As far as raising expectations, it may not necessarily reflect what she thinks about what the race looks like. She may just be lifting morale of her supporters regardless of whether it based on reality or not.

Now, regarding the polls, here are the latest ones:
realclearpolitics.com

It does not look like a meltdown. It looks like a bit of firming in her support in last few days:

OH:
realclearpolitics.com

TX:
realclearpolitics.com

Not many polls in RI:
realclearpolitics.com

I think tomorrow probably decides the whole thing. And I think Texas decides tomorrow.

But what do I know.......


I completely agree. If Obama wins in TX (primary voter count), she is out, no matter how big her OH win is.

Joe



To: Road Walker who wrote (11818)3/3/2008 10:32:27 PM
From: ChinuSFO  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 149317
 
Hillary Clinton gets it sincerely wrong
By Clive Crook

Published: March 2 2008 18:58 | Last updated: March 2 2008 18:58

When Texas and Ohio vote in Tuesday’s Democratic primaries, they may bring Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency to an end. If she loses either of those states, her bid is over barring the formalities. This is a position few expected her to be in. Not long ago, success in the primaries and victory in the general election were regarded as almost inevitable. What went wrong?

For the answer, one should turn (as always) to the teachings of Marx. “The secret of success in life is sincerity,” Groucho once famously observed. “If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

This truth about the human condition applies with particular force to politics. Mrs Clinton tries hard to fake sincerity – so hard it is painful to watch. Sometimes, in fact, I suspect that she really is sincere and only looks as though she is faking. Barack Obama, on the other hand, may actually be sincere – and if he is not, he fakes it so well it makes no difference. Elections are won and lost formany reasons, but if I had to point to just one in the present case, this would be it.

It is surely telling that the most effective moments in Mrs Clinton’s campaign have been those rare times when a real person has appeared to break through: the tears in New Hampshire, the moving and seemingly unaffected tribute to wounded soldiers at the end of the Houston debate the other day. But for most of the time she has veered from one false personality to another, often during the course of a single debate or interview. One moment she would be acting tough, the next warm; now aloof, now approachable; now a fun person, fond of a joke (that was the worst), now stern and serious. In every moment of repose came that scary rictus smile, to emphasise the lack of authenticity and remind one irresistibly of Jack Nicholson in The Shining.

This, of course, is the very style of commentary that Mrs Clinton and her team blame for her predicament – full of pro-Obama bias, they would say, and devoid of analytical substance. That complaint does have some merit. Especially at the beginning of the campaign, when Mr Obama was just an interesting possibility, commentators were far too kind to him – declaring television debates in which he had been trounced by Mrs Clinton a close thing, for instance.

But mistakes in reporting this story did not all go in Mr Obama’s favour. The press has picked up the line that he is all style and no substance as eagerly as the Clinton campaign could wish. Mrs Clinton’s position on healthcare, for instance, is reverently acknowledged as a working blueprint, with every last detail nailed down. Not at all: it is a set of bullet points, no more detailed than Mr Obama’s outlined proposal. Mrs Clinton has not even said how her individual health-insurance mandate – the crucial difference, she tirelessly insists, between her plan and Mr Obama’s – will be enforced. And consider her “time out” on trade. Could you have a vaguer policy than that?

The main thing, however, is that in choosing between Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama, character is key because their differences on policy are trivial. This is why the complaint about style over substance falls flat. Moreover, it is no expression of bias to say that Mr Obama has grown more confident and effective in the debates; or that he is a more likeable and appealing politician than Mrs Clinton; or that audiences respond to him with far greater enthusiasm. These things just happen to be true. The Clinton campaign only made matters worse by striving to deny what was obvious to everybody else.

Lack of charm need not have been an insuperable obstacle. Few people ever accused former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher of being likeable or appealing, but she won elections anyway. She was no phoney: what you saw was what you got. Mrs Clinton’s focus groups complain of a lack of warmth and the candidate is next seen in jeans and sweatshirt joshing tensely with reporters on the campaign plane. “See, she’s smiling.”

How much this multiple personality disorder is a reflection of the candidate herself or of the people running her campaign is difficult to say. But the Democratic party itself must bear much of the blame. Its adulation of the Clintons went to her head. It bred complacency and a sense of entitlement. The campaign expected an easy win and had no real plan of action beyond Super Tuesday. Since the first Obama surge, Mrs Clinton and her advisers have seemed in shock, vacillating between insisting that everything is still on track and desperately reaching for another personality for the candidate to try on.

Mrs Clinton was never as strong a contender as her courtiers had led her to think. Her claim of vast experience – the crux of her campaign – was contestable at the very least. Once the campaign began, her husband was likely to be as much a liability as an asset, and so it proved. She proudly exemplified a kind of politics (“I’m a fighter”) that many Americans had had enough of. In Mr Obama she turned out to be facing an exceptional opponent, with all the novelty and authenticity she lacked. And then, if all that were not enough, her campaign, once rattled, was woefully managed.

Bearing all this is mind, the real surprise may not be that she is on the point of defeat, but that she still retains – for one more day, at least – some small chance of succeeding.

ft.com



To: Road Walker who wrote (11818)3/4/2008 12:09:33 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
They are masters at managing expectations... and she was raising them. Not like them at all.

CNN was saying tonite she had to do that; she is the underdog and must look very positive even if the internal polls are not showing it......so that her GOTV is successful tomorrow.



To: Road Walker who wrote (11818)3/4/2008 5:38:38 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 149317
 
'D-Day' For Clinton Effort
_______________________________________________________________

Primary Outcomes Will Shape Campaign
By STEVEN THOMMA
McClatchy Newspapers
March 4, 2008

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The Democratic presidential campaign hits a turning point today, when voters in Ohio and Texas either will put Hillary Clinton back into the race after a dismal month or drive her out.

Although some pundits already have written off Clinton, convincing wins in the two big states would give the New York senator a strong argument to keep campaigning after losing 11 straight contests — and could raise questions for the first time about rival Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's future.

A loss in one or both, though, after her campaign had called both states must-wins, would stoke enormous pressure on her to quit for the good of the party.

Even a split decision — such as winning Ohio and losing Texas — would leave her trailing Obama in delegates needed to secure the nomination, with little room left to catch up.

"She needs to score a knockout," said Paul Beck, a political scientist at the Ohio State University. "Marginal victories, for someone who was the front-runner, just don't do it. If she doesn't win both of them, and ekes out only a slender victory in one, she's got to seriously consider whether to go on."

In a sign of the kind of pressure that might come after today, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a party elder and former rival for the nomination, said this was the week to wrap up the increasingly testy nomination fight.

"D-Day is Tuesday. We have to have a positive campaign after Tuesday. Whoever has the most delegates after Tuesday, a clear lead, should be, in my judgment, the nominee," Richardson said Sunday on CBS.

Polls suggest that anything is possible today, with Clinton leading by an average of 4 percentage points in Ohio and the two locked in a dead heat in Texas.

Two smaller states also vote, with Rhode Island favoring Clinton and Vermont favoring Obama.

Mathematically, today's votes won't settle the nomination. Though Obama leads, he's still well short of the 2,025 delegates needed to assure a first-ballot nomination at the party's national convention.

But every victory puts him farther ahead in pledged delegates, and creates new pressure on free-agent superdelegates to go with the popular-vote leader.

Even as they fought for votes, both campaigns jockeyed to cast today's results in favorable terms.

Clinton aides hedged their bets Monday and spun back their own spin, now saying she needs only "success" today, not necessarily victories.

"Ultimately, we will be successful in these two states," said Mark Penn, Clinton's chief strategist. He declined to define success.

He and other Clinton aides credited her competitive standing to a tough new attack on Obama in a TV ad — and in Clinton's own stump rhetoric — that portrays him as too inexperienced to handle a crisis in the middle of the night.

"We've seen a tipping point and change in momentum. ... It's tipping to Senator Clinton," Penn contended.

He declined to specify what experience Clinton has that equips her to handle a crisis at 3 in the morning, as her ad says.

Just weeks ago, Clinton's camp was far bolder about Ohio, where she had double-digit leads, and Texas, where she and her husband started building political relationships while working there for George McGovern's presidential campaign in 1972.

"If she wins Texas and Ohio, I think she will be the nominee. If you don't deliver for her, then I don't think she can be," Bill Clinton told Texas voters on Feb. 20.

"If she wins those, we then go on to April 22 in Pennsylvania," Clinton confidant Terry McAuliffe added on Feb. 26. "If we don't, then she has to make a decision on what she's going to do."

Obama aides noted that he leads among pledged delegates by 162 and that Clinton needs to win at least 62 percent of the delegates to be awarded after today to catch him, a very difficult task unless she starts winning states by landslide margins.

While Clinton still hopes to triumph by claiming the votes of superdelegates — party officials and insiders who aren't chosen through primaries and caucuses — recent defections by some of them to Obama from Clinton suggest that it would take a run of primary wins to reverse the tide.