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To: Elroy who wrote (258490)3/4/2008 7:27:37 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
If a child of a Jewish religious person decides he doesn't believe in the Jewish religion, and is therefore not Jewish (since it's a religion and nothing else, in the modern world),

The Arab world - that same world which you're in the middle of but seem oblivious to - is overflowing with hatred of Jews as a people. Jews are called "sons of apes and pigs" in a thousand mosques every Friday and their destruction is urged and prayed for.

In these circumstances, it is both ludicrous and offensive that you sit back and claim Judaism is a religion and nothing more in the modern world.

If you omit the entire Middle East from the modern world it's slightly truer. But still not true.



To: Elroy who wrote (258490)3/4/2008 7:45:04 AM
From: c.hinton  Respond to of 281500
 
elroy,it is star belly sneeches and those without stars.



To: Elroy who wrote (258490)3/4/2008 9:33:54 AM
From: c.hinton  Respond to of 281500
 
how do you prove you are a jew...NYT

"Twenty minutes later, a clerk called Farber in and presented him with a one-sentence judgment stating that Sharon is a Jew."

nytimes.com



To: Elroy who wrote (258490)3/4/2008 11:21:25 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I have as much right to define terms as anyone.

So you have a right to tell Catholics they're not Catholic if you think so? Armenians they're not Armenian? You can tell Barack Obama he's not black because his ancestors weren't slaves?

Well I suppose you can do this. You will succeed in making a complete jackass of yourself.



To: Elroy who wrote (258490)3/4/2008 11:35:17 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I think the "Jewish Race" thing is important for Nadine because, like the Mormons and my Credit Union, "once a member, always a member"! They don't want to LOSE membership.

If they had to count all the secular, non-practicing ex-Jews as non-Jews, there'd be a lot LESS of them than they claim now.

It's kind of a disservice to the secular - they can't ESCAPE their Jewishness, as far as Nadine is concerned.