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To: spiral3 who wrote (51678)3/4/2008 9:18:42 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542169
 
The choices are vastly different, food consumption is far more elastic without fatal results.

Most people can go years, even decades without health care without fatal results. That doesn't work quite so well for food.

And yes some people need health care in a very short time or they will die. But 1 - In certain circumstances people also need food in a very short time. 2 - Socialized health care would cover more than emergency care. 3 - People already get emergency care.

We have a market in food because it is the most efficient delivery system for that commodity

Well then present some evidence that it isn't the most efficent delivery system for health care...




To: spiral3 who wrote (51678)3/4/2008 9:47:23 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542169
 
Actually, I would argue that America's "food delivery system" and "food advertising system" have made Americans fat and/or desperately unhealthy.

There is more money to be made in processed glop foods that last forever, than money to be made in greens and fruits and veggies- so what is the bulk of America's food industry devoted to? Processed glop.

Our food system is "efficient" at one thing- delivering the cheapest longest lasting foods with the biggest profit regardless of the fitness of the product for its original use. Our children become fat undernourished blobs (well not my children, since I don't shop for the foods that America's agribusiness system would like to foist upon me- and America's GMO corn poisoned me for years- so we eat no GMO, and we eat very little processed food), and our diets require us to access a health system that becomes more and more unaffordable, and more and more in demand partly because of the food we put in our mouths.

Glad you brought up the food system in this country. It sucks. I see no reason why we should continue to eat ourselves sick- not even if market forces push us that way. If the market is stupid and sick, should you go with it just because it is efficient? I don't like to police adults- if they want to kill themselves with their food, and they know they are doing it, they should be able to dig their graves with their spoons, but we ought to be protecting the children of America, somehow- and give them a shot at healthy (non-obese) lives.