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To: Lane3 who wrote (52170)	3/6/2008 9:01:41 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540882

>>I haven't seen that exact point discussed either. I don't think I've ever discussed supplementation of the single-payer before. I'm not sure that even makes sense. After all, single-payer connotes, duh, single payer, not supplemental payers. I'm extrapolating from their adamance that their be no tiers of service. << Karen - I guess "single payer" isn't really what we should be talking about. It was only a couple of weeks ago that there was some discussion on this thread about the French hybrid healthcare system, wherein healthcare coverage is pretty much universal, providing a comfortable base level of care for everyone who wants it, while private insurers offer supplemental policies, and those who can afford it have high-end facilities. I was saying that their approach is one that makes sense to me. The Canadian system is similar. Plenty of people there take advantage of an ability to pay a bit more for quicker, more convenient, or higher-end care. - Allen

To: Lane3 who wrote (52170)	3/6/2008 9:06:46 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540882

Hi Lane, re:<<For some people, health care reform is all about fairness and fairness means the same quality of service for those who cannot pay, not something that those of us who can afford it would perceive as needing supplementation.>> Do you place the worth of someone by how much money they make? What about the poor flagger out on the highway that prevents accidents everyday (cuts health care costs for all of US by doing so, btw) but since it is seasonal work in northern states, he is unable to get or afford decent health care for himself..So in the winter he does odd jobs to fill in and fill his family with food..:) Contrast poor Joe Flagger with Angelo Mozilo.. latimesblogs.latimes.com Who deserves GOOD health care the most in your mind? BTW, I think the worth of a human can not be calculated... What about you?.. :) Thanks, c

To: Lane3 who wrote (52170)	3/6/2008 9:12:53 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540882

I don't think I've ever discussed supplementation of the single-payer before. I'm not sure that even makes sense. After all, single-payer connotes, duh, single payer, not supplemental payers. I'm extrapolating from their adamance that their be no tiers of service. Let me repeat the point to which you are replying. No one on this thread, to my knowledge, has argued for no supplementation. And I have specifically argued for it in posts to you, duh. I assume you read them. I'll repeat my assertion in case you missed it. I think the most preferable system for the healthcare in the future would be a generalizing of medicare to the general population with a high floor. And with supplemental insurance available to those who wish it and can afford. And, again, my own guess is that there are tweaks needed to such a view. But that if the rhetoric shifts to the provision of universal care, we will see a host of proposals which address extending health care to everyone, hopefully, through single payer systems.