To: neolib who wrote (53074 ) 3/11/2008 9:48:54 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542256 Sure, but you might want to look at the difference between a net positive balance of trade and a net negative balance of trade country's manufacturing employment. Sure they have decreased manufacturing employment less, because on the average a greater percentage of their economy is manufacturing. What's your point? The fact that even China (the large country with the fastest growing manufacturing exports, and the fastest growth in percentage terms in total manufacturing output in recent years), is "loosing" manufacturing employment, supports my case quite strongly. The decline in manufacturing employment is mostly due to the increase in manufacturing productivity. Another point that supports it is the fact that the US manufactures more than it used to, and its not just very slight growth, or an artifact of not adjusting for inflation or anything like that, its serious real growth. LOL! Then why not produce some numbers to back that up. Multiple times on different thread on SI, I think including this one (but I'm not sure) I've backed up my points by showing how manufacturing output continues to grow in the US. There is no decline in US manufacturing, only in manufacturing employment. If you really doubt this I could look up the numbers again, but please only challenge points you actually doubt, I don't have limitless time for research. (Per the BLS, in 2006 the combined total for farmers, ranchers, and agricultural managers was 1.6 million people Is the above for real? Yes its real. If your problem is that it shouldn't include agricultural managers, well then the total is even lower. The same goes if you want to toss out ranchers. Farmers probably represent the majority of that number, but if tossing out the other two categories makes it 1.4, or 1.5, or 1.55 million, it just (very slightly) strengthens my point because it means that farmers are and even lower percentage of Americans.