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To: Bill on the Hill who wrote (76005)3/12/2008 4:28:46 PM
From: NOW  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
nah, it is a load of carp



To: Bill on the Hill who wrote (76005)3/12/2008 4:35:12 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a literary article alleging a Jewish and Masonic plot to achieve world domination. The piece has been revealed to be antisemitic and anti-Zionist plagiarism and hoax first published in 1903 in Russian, in Znamya.

"The Protocols" (the most brief title by which the text is known) is an early example of contemporary conspiracy theory literature, and takes the form of a speech describing how to dominate the world, the need to control the media, finance, replace traditional social order, etc. It is one of the best known and discussed examples of literary forgery, and a hoax.

The text was popularized by those opposed to Russian revolutionary movement, and was disseminated further after the revolution of 1905, becoming known worldwide after the 1917 October Revolution. It was widely circulated in the West in 1920 and thereafter. The Great Depression and the rise of Nazism were important developments in the history of the Protocols, and the hoax continued to be published and circulated despite its debunking.

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In a single year 1920, five editions of Protocols sold out in England. That same year in the United States, Henry Ford sponsored the printing of 500,000 copies, and from 1920 to 1922 published a series of antisemitic articles, entitled The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem, in The Dearborn Independent, a newspaper he owned. In 1921 Ford cited it as evidence of a Jewish threat: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are 16 years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time." In 1927, however, Ford retracted his publication and apologized, claiming his assistants duped him. On the other side, he did so only after court ordered him to. Moreover, he later expressed his admiration for Nazi Germany.

In 1934, an anonymous editor expanded the compilation with "Text and Commentary" (pages 136–141). The production of this uncredited compilation was a 300-page book, an inauthentic expanded edition of the twelfth chapter of Nilus's 1905 on the coming of the anti-Christ. It consists of substantial liftings of excerpts of articles from Ford's antisemitic periodical The Dearborn Independent. This 1934 text circulates most widely in the English-speaking world, as well as on the internet.
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To: Bill on the Hill who wrote (76005)3/12/2008 8:40:04 PM
From: pogohere  Respond to of 116555
 
What is rather amazing and paradoxical to this non-zionist member of the tribe is that the Fed and many of the banks involved in the creation of the Fed-- which I believe has proven to be a disaster--had, pre-1913 and since, a heavy Jewish participation, including providing legal and financial services to Mussolini (sp?) and Hitler.

The Protocols are trash, but the history of modern finance is full of real mind bending and mind f------- facts.

BTW: having an open mind can sometimes and easily, occasionally, be confused with having a hole in one's head.



To: Bill on the Hill who wrote (76005)3/12/2008 9:22:28 PM
From: ItsAllCyclical  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
It's that kind of thinking that brought Bush into power and kept him there. I know too many people who voted for Bush cause he had the same "values". And what are those "values" exactly? When are people going to start using their minds...

Do you know the history of the Bible? How many books were omitted? Over how many hundreds of years? Other major religions?

Religion has evolved just like we have. Maybe that's because we INVENTED IT. 2000 years from now Deism will be the dominate form. The other religions will still exist, but if you believe in them it'll be akin to witchcraft today.

It's all a crock. Deism is fine w/me if you want to believe, but everything else just seems....well pre-Copernican, pre-Darwin, pre-Einstein, pre-rational thought.

I know many good Christian people. But overall it's done man far more harm than good especially given the problems we face today. Gay marriage is an issue? Geez.