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To: Jeff Hayden who wrote (852)	3/14/2008 5:23:14 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6846

I've been taking the opposite side from Laz on this, but I don't think he was using "prostitution results in divorce" as his main argument. If he was using it as an argument at all, well he didn't show that it leads to more divorce so that would be a weakness in that particular argument, but you don't show that it doesn't lead to more. Stats on divorce by religious affiliation just aren't relevant to the point, and Laz certainly has not been using religious based arguments against prostitution being legal, so any such stats are really irrelevant to the whole discussion. Since Atheist ethics are of a higher caliber than religious morals Thats just an unsupported assertion (no marginally higher divorce rates don't show lower caliber morals). Its also a rather unclear one. "Ethics" is sometimes used to refer to formal rules of professions, but I'm not sure you (or Barrier) is using it that way, and if you are than I don't see how formal ethical rules for a profession would necessarily be of some higher caliber than religiously motivated moral principles. Ethics also refers to the entire study of and issue of moral ideas, which would include religiously inspired ethics, but if your using it that way I'm not sure the sentence is even a very coherent statement. "We hear an awful lot from conservatives in the Bible Belt and on the TV about how we all should be living. Neither side of this prostitution debate has been arguing based on "conservative religious "Bible Belt" ideas.

To: Jeff Hayden who wrote (852)	3/15/2008 7:24:12 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6846

news.yahoo.com Now this is an area where reliable statistics are impossible to gather and those that are gathered are likely skewed towards the negative. But womensissues.about.com 86% assaulted 55% assaulted by customers 88% threatened 83% threatened with a weapon 68% raped 48% raped more than 5 times 46% of rapes were by customers womensissues.about.com Why don't we just make hits legal and be done with it? Some of the victims survive so it isn't always murder. And that's the answer to the "we can't stop it; legalize it" argument. We can't stop murder either; legalize it and tax it. If we could stop any of the crimes on the statute books, we just would and they wouldn't be there. Another one. Try not to puke. rapeis.org Like NV as an example of how to do it right? rapeis.org " In Nevada, where prostitution has been legalized, the rape rates are the 4th highest in the country." Yeah, I know, it's the fault of all those d***ed Californians coming in. Well, prostitution isn't legal in CA. If it ever becomes legal. I'll leave. You like illegal drugs? Coke and meth do great things for your health and longevity, right? abcnews.go.com The Netherlands is an example we want to follow? gvnet.com Try again. That shot missed. FYI, I'm not religious right. I'm atheist and agnostic on alternate days (indecisive, I know).