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To: RetiredNow who wrote (13756)	3/15/2008 9:21:46 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 149317

This comment from the Huffingtonpost blog actually adds an interesting perspective: All Jeremiah Wright was saying is "love thy neighbor as thy self." You have to understand Christianity, and listen to the entire sermon to put his words into context. He was saying "live by the sword, die by the sword." His frame of reference was picked up later by more intelligence agency savvy journalists and a book called "Blowback" says basically the same thing he's said in his sermon: en.wikipedia.org Here's a website entirely devoted to the same subject by the author of "Blowback" (Chalmers Johnson presents his material in a less "colorful" style, but the meaning is the same.) thirdworldtraveler.com Indeed, it is the style of Rev. Jeremiah Write's speech that causes the hairs to stand on the back of some less culturally sophisticated necks. It reminds them of Malcolm X. But, that's the fault of the listener, not the speaker. Obama is special BECAUSE he listens to diverse opinions without condemning them. You can't have it both ways. First he's not black enough, then he's not white enough... doesn't anybody get the idea that all this unwillingness to EVEN LISTEN TO EACH OTHER, IS what's WRONG with America? If voters want a president who can listen to all manner of opinion and then draw some path away from conflict towards resolution, they're going to have to be willing to sit in some "unusual" places. "Love the sinner, not the sin." -Jesus Christ "We can't raise ourselves up by tearing the other person down." -Barack Obama So, I take your point Mr. Posner, but as a man of letters (and a great writer, by the way) the burden of proof isn't upon Obama to explain what he was doing in that church, it's upon us to understand why he HAD to be there. Obama-Webb '08 Posted 07:36 PM on 03/15/2008 by lovethesinner huffingtonpost.com

To: RetiredNow who wrote (13756)	3/15/2008 10:15:42 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Michigan Democrats Discuss Holding New Primary in Early June By Christopher Stern March 15 (Bloomberg) -- Michigan Democrats are discussing plans to hold a second statewide presidential primary to resolve questions over the state's disputed January vote. Leading Michigan Democrats including Senator Carl Levin and Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick say they are thinking about a date in early June, although they haven't yet picked a day yet. Levin, Kilpatrick, United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger and Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell said they hope a second vote would allow the party to avoid a battle over the seating of the state's delegates at the party's national convention in August. ``We agree that the Michigan delegation should be seated at the convention, and without a fight before the Credentials Committee or on the floor of the convention,'' the group said in an e-mailed statement yesterday. The Democratic National Committee stripped Florida and Michigan of their convention delegates for holding primaries in January, earlier than party rules allowed. The DNC didn't anticipate that two presidential candidates would still be in a neck-and-neck race for convention delegates when it disqualified the states' votes. Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer praised the group's proposal today as a ``good first step.'' The redone election would require the state legislature to change state law, he said. The vote would also need the support of the Obama and Clinton campaigns, along with the state and national Democratic parties. Obama Campaign Response ``I will continue to work with all involved to resolve the issue of seating our delegates at the National Convention,'' Brewer said in an e-mailed statement yesterday. Clinton got 55 percent of the vote in the Jan. 15 Michigan primary, with Obama's name not on the ballot. ``Uncommitted'' came in second in the Michigan primary with 40 percent of the vote. ``We hope a resolution can be arrived at that is fair and practical, and look forward to building a winning campaign in Michigan for November,'' Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said yesterday. Officials with Clinton's campaign didn't immediately respond to a request for a comment. Florida's state Democratic party proposed holding a second vote on June 3. Whether it will occur is in doubt after officials in the Obama and Clinton campaigns, plus the Florida U.S. House delegation, criticized it as unworkable. To contact the reporter on this story: Christopher Stern in Washington at cstern3@bloomberg.net. Last Updated: March 15, 2008 00:25 EDT