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Strategies & Market Trends : The Residential Real Estate Crash Index -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Hawkmoon who wrote (110859)3/17/2008 9:23:56 AM
From: Smiling BobRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
I wonder how many homes purchased in 05-06 were truly owner occupied. No way of telling due to misrepresentations on docs.
Depending on historical norms and just throwing out numbers, 50% of those so-called AAA tranches could be investor/speculator walkaways and 25% could be sub-primes leaving maybe 25% as potentially good loans- or worse.
The total RE value backing them could be a lot less than 50%
There's a flood of uncertainty for good reason



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (110859)3/17/2008 9:24:18 AM
From: Think4YourselfRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
That's the cream of the crop and a lot of it doesn't meet the established rules for being investment grade. In my book that makes some of it highly speculative and the rest of it garbage.

Are you interested in buying bonds where the payments are at risk and the fundamentals behind the bond are deteriorating by the day?

No one wants this stuff because they know it's garbage. Wall Street ran out of suckers to sell this stuff to. The market for this stuff is not going to miraculously start back up, at least not at anywhere near current levels.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (110859)3/17/2008 10:49:42 AM
From: patron_anejo_por_favorRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
>>So long as mortgage payments continue to be made, and interest passed on to the MBS', how can it be declared "garbage".. <<

First of all, a large chunk of mortgage payments aren't being made. That's why all of this got started.

Second, you and Forbes are completely ignoring the effects of leverage on the effects of the instruments in question. I suggest you read this, then get back to us:

blownmortgage.com