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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (14041)	3/18/2008 8:18:41 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Respond to of 149317

Michael, are you willing to admit that Obama's church has done much good work in Chicago and that Pastor Wright has also accomplished much good work there?

To: greenspirit who wrote (14041)	3/18/2008 7:01:33 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 149317

"this is? why they slaved niggers years ago!!!" Mr. Cummings, the above is a comment at the site of the video you posted. If this is the person you are concerned about....if this is the kind of people you hang with.....if this the person you think Obama has offended, then you have no idea who I am and for what I stand nor do you even begin to understand who Barack Obama is. I once read that the people of a country get the kind of leaders they deserve. If you and the commentor up above are typical of this country, then please be my guest....pull the lever for John McCain. In fact.....let me go one step further........if this country elects anyone but Barack Obama, they deserve whatever mess comes down the pike. Please try and think for a minute about why a person given the privilege of being educated at Harvard would willingly support a church who's sermons screed anti-American hatred? I am white and I can understand the anger of the black community. Why can't you? They were shat on for 200 years......if that happened to you and your family, you would be more than pissed.......every white person in this country would go berserk......even if Harvard gave you a degree and $200 for passing go. This country has had a long, proud history of discrimination. And it still goes on in the 21st century....not the in-your-face kind from past years but discrimination nonetheless. I am student teaching in a school where whites are a minority. Do you know what the means? Probably not. Well let me tell you........the school is crap......probably 50 years old or more. Its a mess. The computers are circa 1988 when there are some to be seen. That's as high tech as it gets. The floor in the room of my mentor teacher has been patched with 4 different types of tile. The walls were painted two years ago because my mentor teacher bought the paint and the students painted the room. Last year, I did my practicum in a predominately white school......where there was hi tech equipment everywhere.......every student had his/her own laptop. The hallways were carpeted.......the architecture state of the art. But you know what's the worst part about student teaching at this school....the thing that breaks my heart.......the kids in this school are first rate. They are some of the sweetest kids I have ever met since wanting to be teacher. They never ever complain about the quality of the school. They accept that this is the best they are going to get. And sadly, this is not the worst of schools.......there are ones much worse in very poor neighborhoods.......where the roofs leak like sieves, rodents run rampant, windows with broken or missing glass are everywhere, the lighting is poor and there isn't a computer to be seen. All this in a country that is supposed to be the wealthiest and most democratic in the world. And you dare to wonder why Rev. Wright is frigging angry and why he isn't a true blue American GOPer through and through. Mr. Cummings, you are sorely out of touch.......please go vote for Mr. McCain.......that's who you deserve as a leader. Someone who believes the war is going fine in Iraq and that America is perfect in its creation. Its a lot of horse puckey but I have a feeling you grew up on horse puckey. As for me, I am voting for Barack Obama come hell or high water! And Chinu I apologize for being argumentative and if you don't want me to post here in the future, I will understand.

To: greenspirit who wrote (14041)	3/22/2009 1:45:40 PM
From: ChinuSFO	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

This is an opportunity for the Republican party to increase their support in the African American community. Steel's the man. He needs to be supported instead of being badgered by Rush =================================== <v>Byron Williams: African American community should embrace gay rights. BAY AREA NEWS GROUP Posted: 03/22/2009 12:00:00 AM PDT WHENEVER THERE is a discussion about gay rights and the African-American community, someone can be depended upon to offer the juvenile critique that the cause of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community is not the same as the historical Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and '60s. It's not uncommon to hear African-American pastors suggest "my skin cannot be compared with their sin" as a way to poetically justify their homophobia. This argument assumes a collective understanding of what the Civil Rights Movement is and what the LGBT movement is not. If one views the civil rights movement and the current LGBT struggle through the linear paradigm of race and sex, I would agree there is little that connects the two. If, however, one understands the civil rights movement as something that helped America get closer to the democratic values to which it committed itself in 1776, along with the preamble of the Constitution that reads: "We the people of the United States in order form a more perfect union," then I would suggest the LGBT struggle is very much an extension in the ongoing civil rights struggle. As Dr. Sylvia Rhue, director of religious affairs for the National Black Justice Coalition stated: "Challenging homophobia is the unfinished business of civil rights." One of the great challenges of the American experiment is the ongoing examination of who exactly comprises the "we." Former Congresswoman, Barbara Jordan, during the Watergate hearings eloquently stated: "'We, the people.' It is a very eloquent beginning. But when the document was completed on the 17th of September 1787 I was not included in that 'We, the people.' I felt somehow for many years that George Washington and Alexander Hamilton just left me out by mistake. But through the process of amendment, interpretation and court decision I have finally been included in 'We, the people.'" It is fair to say that when the Constitution was ratified, not only was Jordan not included, but also many Americans today, regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, let alone orientation, would have found themselves outside of the inclusive jurisdiction of the "we." "Who are the we?" has been arguably the most tension-filled question in America's brief history. It has fueled demonstrations and violence. The country even went to war against itself, in part, because of the inability to answer the "we" question definitively. It was the question that African slaves and their descendants raised in their quest for equality. It was the question for women during the suffrage movement. And it is the question that so many in the LGBT movement rightly have today. The ironic aspect to this dubious legacy is when those newly admitted develop amnesia about their particular struggle for justice when volunteering for gate duty as others attempt to enter through the door marked, "Equal Protection Under the Law. " On March 28, the National Black Justice Coalition will hold its fourth annual Black Church Summit along with a national town hall meeting at Glide United Methodist Church in San Francisco, beginning at 9 a.m. There will be a number of clergy, theologians and activists assembled in the ongoing attempt answer the "we" question as it relates to the African-American LGBT community. NBJC is a civil rights organization dedicated to empowering the LGBT community. According to Rhue, "NBJC envisions a world where all people are fully empowered to participate safely, openly and honestly in family, faith and community, regardless of race, gender-identity or sexual orientation." In order to meet this lofty goal, NBJC recognizes the importance of fostering dialogue with the historical black church that has played a vital role in the African-American community. The black church has consistently been a nexus of hope for people once condemned to the outskirts of second-class citizenship. But far too many segments of the black church today prefer to hide behind the same rationale that justified Jim Crow segregation than to welcome their LGBT brothers and sisters. When will we learn the door to equality does not remain cracked selectively? contracostatimes.com