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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Joe NYC who wrote (14261)	3/19/2008 1:10:54 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

Do you not remember that Hillary had a 25% lead over Obama, 6 months ago. Now Obama is ahead in delegates and all other areas. And you are saying that Hillary leads Obama by 0.6%!! Tell the thread your reasons for supporting Hillary? Tell us why you think that when blows a 25% point lead, when she has to contribute to her campaign, how can she convince the superdelegates that her downward slide will not continue. Tell the thread how she will justify her husband's ties to UAE, a terrorist nation and who lobbied for UAE to be awarded the port security contract. Tell the thread about what you think about the 11th hour pardons to criminals in exchange of contributions. And most of all, to honor the dignity of the women in this country, tell us what she did to come out in support of a woman Monica Lewinsky who was treated as a mere sex object by a man,, her own husband. I didn't support impeaching the Clintons then because I loved my country more than the Clintons. I still continue to love this country and I will join all those to do everything possible to prevent this country through that again.

To: Joe NYC who wrote (14261)	3/19/2008 9:39:13 AM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Jozef, I'm going to say something that will hit a little closer to home to help you understand why the hysteria over Obama's pastor is wrong. What if we took a video clip of an Orthodox Israeli Jew giving a speech on how all Muslims are terrorists and the Qu'ran is a book straight from the devil? What if we catch that sermon with his spit flying and his zeal in full display in all its ugliness? We all know that there are Israeli zealots that HATE the Muslims and that these videos are out there. I'm sure if we watched translations of Arab channels like Al Jazeera, we could compile an impressive video library of speeches on hate from both Muslims and Jews. But surely Jewish folks like this are not an everyday occurrence nor representative of the general beliefs among Israelis. But what if we play that on all the US networks over and over and over and over and over and we tell the US citizens that the Jews are monsters who kill people and beat people senseless who can't defend themselves and that no Christian should support this kind of brutality and lack of human rights. Just how long do you think it would take to turn US Citizens against Israel? That would be an utter travesty, but that is the power of propaganda. So be careful when you try to assassinate a person's character undeservingly. If we become a country that engages in shameless propaganda, then many many people and entire countries can be the worse for it. And btw, all my life I've be a firm believer in America being Israel's protector as the only Democratic nation in a sea of Arab and Muslim dictatorships. This example was only to point out how ridiculous it is to take one day or one action and to paint that person as evil and then by association to destroy another person. It's reprehensible and defies all logic. So cut your crap about Obama and his former pastor. No self-respecting or intelligent person would do what Fox or you are trying to do.

To: Joe NYC who wrote (14261)	3/19/2008 9:55:55 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

If one views the "spectrum" one sees obama on the left which is where he didnt want to end up, mccain on the right, and hillary dead center. Even with all her baggage in a General election, i would want to be positioned where she is. McCain made an old man/bush like gaffe yesterday about al quaeda coming from iran. Obama's speech was King-like but he failed to answer how he takes his kids to a church where the preacher says GodDamn America. This wont play well in Ohio or PA and in conjunction with apparent anger from Mrs. O who i think kept him in that church perhaps against his wishes and better judgement; and the lapel pin flap (not whether one should wear it but whether a statement is being made when one removes it), this will all hurt. Will McCains pro war stance (iraq and vietnam) be enough to offset obamas weakness or will Obama be able to explain things better in the General????