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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zeta1961 who wrote (14461)	3/19/2008 8:19:43 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 149317

Facts for Liberals: Islamic terrorists are responsible for 3000 American killings on 9/11/2001. Blacks find their own drugs without any help from the government. They manage to contract HIV as a result of their lifestyle as well. It's about time liberals take responsiblity for their own lives and problems without making lunatic accusations against others for their own personal failings. Jeremiah Wright is an insane, hate-filled loudmouth and anyone who listens to and believes his rantings can consider themselves members of that club as well. Obama's campaign has been hobbled by racist hatemongers on the Left.

To: zeta1961 who wrote (14461)	3/19/2008 10:58:50 PM
From: SiouxPal	Respond to of 149317

Agreed.

To: zeta1961 who wrote (14461)	3/19/2008 11:03:09 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 149317

I clearly don't agree with some of Wright's inflammatory comments but I keep an open mind and look for ways to understand the man...check out this perspective: March 19, 2008 10:07 PM vanwurs said: Something that just occured to me as I was watching Pat Buchanan (who seems to be genuinely incensed at the Reverend's various YouTube remarks) and some black radio host go at on Hardball tonight... Reverend Wright wasn't talking about you and me (well, certainly not me, I don't know about you...), if we are white, when he was doing his damning and condemning. He wasn't damning and condemning individual white people. He was talking about a white power structure. You and I didn't drop any bombs on Hiroshima, or infect the black population with AIDS, or put all those young black men in jail. So he isn't racist in the same sense that the Klan is racist, or David Duke is racist, or all those folks who post crude and hateful stuff on various blogs about Barack Obama are racist. It just so happens to be a fact that society is predominantly (at some level, almost exclusively) white at the top and predominantly black and brown at the bottom. He is mostly railing against the realities of class, and the fact that class is intertwined (and in his view, not accidently) with race. But for white folks to shiver and go and lock their doors when they hear an angry Reverend Wright, says more about their own subliminal racial fantasies and fears (Nat Turner, anyone?) then it does about anything the Reverend Wright has actually said. He is angry at the ruling class in America, which (again, not accidently if you accept his historical narrative) happens to be white. He doesn't want to round up white people up and put them in concentration camps. He wants to redress the inequalities and injustices of class and end the historical dynamic that results in those inequalities resolving themselves on the basis of race. Barack understands that critique of society and understands the degree to which is accurate and the degree to which is not, and disagrees with his friend and mentor when he takes this critique to paranoid and unkind extremes, even as he understands that his friend means nothing personal and poses no threat to anybody. He is angry at at an impersonal power structure, not white people as such. blogs.tnr.com

To: zeta1961 who wrote (14461)	3/20/2008 11:20:36 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I dont buy into the drug conspiracy stuff although i dont doubt that even today drugs flow freely from afganistan because of larger issues there that require not totally bankrupting the place. Some of that has gone on i am sure from the 60s on thru many admins. No one forces anyone to take drugs and though crack is cheaper, same holds true. And if you are talking 70s and 80s you gotta address pure cocaine which was a white mans disease as i remember it.