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To: Dale Baker who wrote (54641)	3/20/2008 12:57:10 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Respond to of 542927

Can his supporters outline what you expect him to accomplish in four years with a presumably Democratic Congress? Can a maybe supporter offer an opinion? I suspect his greatest chance of achievement would come in a "balanced energy" policy. More specifically green energy and GW attention are things they both feel strong about. That's where I would start if I was a leader in Congress. steve

To: Dale Baker who wrote (54641)	3/20/2008 1:05:23 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 542927

In reality what needs doing. The government is in many area a huge waste. I hope McCain will act far more rationally on defense issues than either dem. So having a hamstrung federal government that does less is doing more for the benefit of Americans. I see McCain as not destroying the defenses of America against real terrorist threats. I believe the efforts of America in remaking Iraq were and are a noble effort that has and will pay dividends. Much of the payback is in human training and engineering and systems howto. All one sees in the news is the conflicts actions. There is no real coverage of the systems engineering of rebuilding a country and it's utility infrastructure. Was the surge the real cause of the observed pacification or the product of sum of all the improvements in day to day Iraqi lives? All three candidates are brain washed over the delusion that CO2 in some way has magical properties that cause global warming. In fact it seems now even Bush now has adopted some of that dementia.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (54641)	3/20/2008 1:31:33 PM
From: slacker711	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542927

Can his supporters outline what you expect him to accomplish in four years with a presumably Democratic Congress? One key to looking at any of the candidates is to realize that regardless of who wins the Presidency we are going to have a Democratic congress. Just some random thoughts that come to mind... - Strong control on spending. It isnt just earmarks, McCain has voted down new programs as well. We wont see any new Prescription Drug Benefit type of programs. OTOH, we wont see much in the way of new infrastructure spending either. He is also likely to be the least creative in addressing the current credit crisis. - We would see tax increases due to compromises with the Congress, but dramatically less than under Obama or Clinton. - Some movement around the edges of healthcare but definitely not a dramatic overhaul. - A continuation of free trade policies but no new accords are likely to get through Congress. - Bipartisan agreement on some sort of cap and trade program for greenhouse gases. - Increased spending on the wall along the border but ultimately a compromise on immigration that recognises we arent going to send 12 million people home. - I think McCain is actually the most likely to get some sort of SS reform done. He has stated that all proposals are on the table (including benefit cuts or increasing the cap) and if he isnt likely to run in '12, I can see some sort of bipartisan compromise on the issue. - A continuation of the current policy in Iraq but I think the ultimate endgame of US troops in bases in Iraq will take longer to achieve than under Hillary or Obama. He obviously isnt going to be a revolutionary President...OTOH, those who dismiss him as a 3rd term of Bush are ignoring the large number of times he crossed the aisle to work with Democrats. I dont see that changing if he is in the White House (which will drive conservatives nuts). FWIW, I am probably a McCain lean but Obama definitely has a chance to win my vote. It will depend on which way he tacks in the general election. Under most circumstances, I am unlikely to vote for Hillary. Slacker