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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (55225)	3/22/2008 7:00:51 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542817

nah, it should never had been on the table at all. ask any southerner who goes to church and has a frothing preacher. or any catholic who is not all against birth-control yet listens to the whosit speak. and etc. but i have heard this called hate speech. have you ever, and i ask directly, had hate speech directed at you? i have had, by association with my 'love' predication, had the damnation of america laid at my and my brethens door. have you? it has been said by many a preacher who has the ear of those in 'power' that america is damned because of the likes of me. and until abortion is outlawed and the likes of me are sent back to the shadows, america will suffer. perhaps i should flog myself? however could i do this to america. so... rev wright says that killing innocents can bring damnation. others, who sit at meals with our prez, say that my partaking of sexual relations (ahem) with my sweetie brings damnation. which is hate speech? or is either? i don't think them silly white preachers who bash queers are talking 'hate' speech. just misquided. and america is not damned on my humble queer behalf. or even over abortion, anymore than over taking the land from the indians. if that were the case, the jews would be damned, cause they did take their land way back when, regardless of any godly directive. and the franks took land from the original brit tribes. and what ever happened to the picts? any southerner could tell you, and is why that very conservative fellow from arkansas was one of the wisest on this, that we are not what our preachers say. but we are of the church. and we take the bad with the good. and you do not correct your preacher. discuss with them when you can, yes. but it is their pulpit. and if is enough good to balance the other, you stay. all my relatives who love me, and know i am non-hetero, they still sit in church and hear sermons condemning 'me' to hell. but that is not every week. and they dismiss it. i... sense you are not a church goer? or are maybe a yankeeish sort? like one of them mildly-liberal churches? no cause offense to no one? just guessing