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To: Lane3 who wrote (55238)	3/22/2008 10:24:51 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542169

I keep wondering how proud people on the right were of the US when the Clintons were in power before. It's now a major PC violation not to be blindly patriotic, but I bet I could go back and dig out a lot of RW quotes on how shameful the US was in the Clinton years, because of their policies. So if someone who is 28 now and loves Bush says, for the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country, were they inveterate America haters before? Of course not.

To: Lane3 who wrote (55238)	3/22/2008 2:03:10 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542169

>>I agree that we can't generalize from those snippets the content of his other sermons and speeches. However When I first heard Michelle's comment I was chilled. I didn't react like the gang who questioned her patriotism but I did sense something discordant in what she said. After pondering it for a while, I attribute my reaction to my surprise and concern that someone like her would so display what I took to be the influence of Black Liberation Theology.<< Karen - I haven't been exposed to Black Liberation Theology at all, and I wasn't even the slightest bit chilled by what Michelle Obama said. She said, "For the first time in my adult life I'm really proud of my country." That doesn't bother me a bit. I don't see what is so great about being proud of one's country. I must say that I haven't been exactly tickled pink by a lot of what this country has done since I was born. But if you look at the context of her statement, and how she amplified on it, you see that she was talking about the way in which people were coming out to participate in our Democracy in much greater numbers. This, after years of cynicism and elections where fewer than half the registered voters turned out. What is so wrong with that? And as I said to Quehebo, Barack and Michelle Obama's lives are examples that show that Wright's message doesn't affect people negatively. They seem to have succeed admirably. One of them is actually a Senator, and could become our next President. How does that show that listening to J. Wright harms anyone? - Allen