Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : View from the Center and Left -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (55283)	3/22/2008 11:26:19 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542214

Anyway, that's my "context" And what I posted is mine. The typical manifestation is when you criticize something in America and it draws the response, "You always blame America first!", which is a sign of insufficient patriotism since the point is now couched in one's love for America relative to other countries. Which had nothing to do with the original point but this is rhetorical authoritarianism, a cheap trick to stifle dissent in the name of loving one's country.

To: Lane3 who wrote (55283)	3/22/2008 2:57:03 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542214

>>Anyway, that's my "context" for asserting that folks who don't love this country should find one that they can love.<< Karen - Love it or leave it? You used an example of a mother who has a child who is a murderer. She loves him, but isn't proud of him. Well how about a mother whose child is going out and robbing houses or mugging people. She also may love her child but not be proud of him. So should she move away from her child, or should she try to correct him? How about a citizen who thinks her country has been wrong for too long, in many ways, while other citizens are too cynical to even bother to vote to try to fix things? Can she not love her country, too, but not be proud of it? And can she not work to change the country's policies instead of leaving? And if she sees that suddenly people are becoming more involved, coming out in great numbers to listen to campaign speeches, and voting, can she not then be proud as she hasn't been before? And if she feels all those things, is she not just as good a citizen as any other? - Allen