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To: Oblomov who wrote (76834)	3/27/2008 8:41:22 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

Oblomov:" "Koan, now you're just arguing from authority. I don't doubt that Krugman is intelligent, or that he is degreed, or that he would be a scintillating guest at a dinner party. But this is entirely beside the point. My contention is that he creates a straw man righty that he then proceeds to dismantle, instead of understanding the diversity and complexity of opinion on the right. And second, despite his intelligence and native curiosity, this is an area of inquiry on which he is willfully ignorant. Third, what does his book really improve about the human condition? So another person makes another loud declaration of his "side" in the pointless right/left debate. So what? Nobody's opinion will get changed by it, least of all yours. KOAN: "I was wrong to personalize it!" I was frustrated because you have many of your facts wrong, in my opinon. So I do not know how to discuss this stuff with you. Take Norman Podhoretz for example whom you felt was not a neo conservative as I remember. Newsweek, March 10,2008 Vanden Heuvel on william F. Buckly and Podhoretz: ""On a fund raising cruise he (Buckley) got into a heated argument with ferocious neoconservative Norman Podhoretz about the wisdom of the Iraq invasion." Buckly was against it by 03. Buckley was also a supporter of Joe McCarthy's 50's witch hunts; and about blacks said: they will learn to run their affairs when they learn to stop eating each other". I am not "arguing authority", I know what Krugman says is the truth from my own knowledge. I use him to back up my arguments which would be the same. I have studied politics closely for 40 years and been involved in it personally and know the subject pretty well. With all due respect I do not think you have a lot of your facts right and am not sure where you are coming from? There is a HUGE difference between the conservative and liberal thinking and mind set. Rush Limbaughs and Bill Moyers contrast the two types of thinking pretty well. Podhoretz, as mentioned, is not only a neo con, but one of the leaders and supporters of the Iraq war and friedman's idea of pure capitalism and Ayn Rands "greed is good" nonsense. We can be existential beings doing good things for ourselves and socieity just by making our minds up, if we get half way self actualized by leaning how to think logically with adequate knowledge. We can rise above a "stupid formula" which is what the neo cons have been selling. And an ugly formula at that! And the NEO cons do subscribe to the the Ayn Rand / Milton Friedman theory of economics, both of whom I consider just dead wrong. Ayn Rand was a real intellectual lightweight and Milton Friedman seemed to not understand the role of society in preventing abuses in a purely capitalist economy like sweatshops. He seemed to me to be a bit autistic i.e. unable to relate to basic human suffering. Maybe the question I should ask you is: "who do you think has figured out economic and social theory best?