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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (56316)3/26/2008 8:26:55 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543554
 
you bring up an interesting point- but this point is elminated if one looks at the novel and somewhat bizarre idea of "preemption"- if we discard the unhealthy idea of "preempting" things, we are no longer in danger of attacking phantoms. Pretty neat solution, isn't it?

I can understand why you'd like to defend Bush's belief in the bluff- that's a hard thing to get around; you have to start saying things like "Well if we believe it was real than it's real"- which sounds an awful lot like the Velveteen Rabbit- nice book, lousy foreign policy.



To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (56316)3/26/2008 9:17:51 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543554
 
>>If rhe report states what I see as clear and compelling evidence that it was reasonable for saddam's bluff to be not discounted as an imaginary threat, then saddam was a real threat.<<

Thomas -

I hadn't realized that you were the ultimate decision maker, and that if you are convinced, it must therefore absolutely be so.

Please pardon me for taking the ISG report to mean what it says.

- Allen

PS: Just one minor point. You haven't provided any quotes from the report that indicate Saddam was a real threat. You've only quoted the same two sentences about how he wanted to be one. Are those two sentences, then, the whole of the "clear and compelling evidence" you are citing?