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To: Brumar89 who wrote (375391)3/29/2008 1:04:04 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578501
 
Sadr urges militiamen in Iraq to reject calls to disarm

By Tina Susman, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
7:17 AM PDT, March 29, 2008
BAGHDAD -- Shiite cleric Muqtada Sadr sent a defiant signal to Iraq's government today, urging militiamen fighting Iraqi and U.S. forces to reject calls to disarm as American airstrikes continued.

In Sadr's Baghdad stronghold, Sadr City, a spokesman for the city health department said at least 57 people had been killed there since fighting broke out Tuesday. The battles, which pit Shiite militiamen against Iraqi and U.S. forces, erupted in the wake of a government offensive in the southern city of Basra.

Sadr's followers say the offensive was aimed at crippling his movement, and they say they are firing only in self-defense. The Iraqi and U.S. forces deny targeting Sadr's Mahdi Army militia and say they are going after "criminal gangs."

There was no way to independently confirm the death toll delivered by Qassim Muhammad. The country's Health Ministry is seen as pro-Sadr.

Police and health officials have reported scores more deaths from fighting in other Shiite areas of Baghdad and the rest of Iraq, mostly in Basra.

There were more U.S. airstrikes in Basra today, a U.S. military official said, without giving details. On Thursday night, a Navy jet unleashed 20-millimeter cannon fire on what U.S. and British authorities said was a mortar-launching position.

The United States said three militia members were killed.

But some Basra residents said eight civilians, including five people from one family, were among the dead. The U.S. military said it was aware of the report but could not confirm it. "I can say that coalition forces make every effort to engage only hostile threats," a military spokeswoman said in an e-mailed response to questions about the incident.

Iraq's government eased a 24-hour curfew in Basra to permit residents to stock up on food and other supplies, but few people ventured onto the streets. A Basra resident said they risked being caught in cross-fire or shot by Iraqi army snipers who could mistake them for militiamen, or by militiamen guarding the neighborhoods they control.

Sadr's message of defiance was delivered by an aide in the southern city of Najaf, Sheik Haider Jabiri. Jabiri said Sadr had directed followers to reject Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's call for fighters to hand in their weapons in exchange for financial compensation.

Maliki has not said what the compensation would be. On Friday, the government said militiamen had until April 8 to accept the offer.

Jabiri quoted Sadr as urging loyalists not to give arms to the current government. "They should hand over weapons to a government that will be able to take out the occupier," Sadr said, referring to U.S. forces.

The militant cleric is a fierce opponent of the American presence in Iraq and has denounced Maliki for not setting a deadline for the departure of U.S. troops.

There were reports of some weapons handovers today, but not the kind Maliki was seeking.

In Sadr City, about 40 members of the National Police went to the main Sadr office to offer their weapons. They said they did not want to battle fellow Shiites.

In exchange, they were given olive branches and Korans, according to witnesses.

tina.susman@latimes.com

Times staff writers Raheem Salman and Mohammed Rasheed in Baghdad, and special correspondents in Basra and Baghdad contributed to this report.

latimes.com



To: Brumar89 who wrote (375391)3/29/2008 1:38:16 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578501
 
Warlord vs. Warlord

What are they fighting about in Basra?

By Fred Kaplan
Posted Thursday, March 27, 2008, at 6:40 PM ET
The wars in Iraq (the plural is no typo) are about to expand and possibly explode, so it might be useful to have some notion of what we're in for.

Here is President George W. Bush, speaking this morning in Dayton, Ohio, and revealing once again that he has no notion:

[A]s we speak, Iraqi security forces are waging a tough battle against militia fighters and criminals in Basra—many of whom have received arms and training and funding from Iran. … This offensive builds on the security gains of the surge and demonstrates to the Iraqi people that their government is committed to protecting them. … [T]he enemy will try to fill the TV screens with violence. But the ultimate result will be this: Terrorists and extremists in Iraq will know they have no place in a free and democratic society.

The reality, alas, is less stark. The fighting in Basra, which has spread to parts of Baghdad, is not a clash between good and evil or between a legitimate government and an outlaw insurgency. Rather, as Anthony Cordesman, military analyst for the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, writes, it is "a power struggle" between rival "Shiite party mafias" for control of the oil-rich south and other Shiite sections of the country.

Mahdi fighters take cover during clashes in Basra
Both sides in this struggle are essentially militias. Both sides have ties to Iran. And as for protecting "the Iraqi people," the side backed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki (and by U.S. air power) has, ironically, less support—at least in many Shiite areas, including Basra—than the side that he (and we) are attacking.

In other words, as with most things about Iraq, it's a more complex case than Bush makes it out to be.

The two Shiite parties—the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq and Muqtada Sadr's Mahdi army—have been bitter rivals since the early days of post-Saddam Iraq. And Maliki, from the beginning of his rule, has had delicate relations with both.

Sadr, who may be Iraq's most popular Shiite militant and who controls several seats in parliament, gave Maliki the crucial backing he needed to become prime minister. However, largely under U.S. pressure, Maliki has since backed away from Sadr, who has always fiercely opposed the occupation and whose militiamen have killed many American soldiers (until last year, when he declared a cease-fire).

Maliki has since struck a close alliance with ISCI, which has its own militia, the Badr Organization, and whose members also hold much sway within Iraq's official security forces (though more with the police than with the national army). This alliance has the blessing of U.S. officials, even though ISCI—which was originally called the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq—has much deeper ties with Iran than Sadr does. (ISCI's leaders went into exile in Iran during the decades of Saddam's reign, while Sadr and his family stayed in Iraq—one reason for his popular support. As Ray Takeyh of the Council on Foreign Relations has noted, SICRI was created by Iran, and the Badr brigades were trained and supplied by Iran's Revolutionary Guard.)

Sadr's Mahdi army and ISCI's Badr Organization came to blows last August in the holy city of Karbala. This fighting—and his growing inability to control criminal elements within the Mahdi army—spurred Sadr to order a six-month moratorium on violence, which he renewed last month, against the wishes of some of his followers. (This moratorium is a major reason for the decline in casualties in Iraq, perhaps as significant as the U.S. troop surge and the Sunni Awakening.)

The fighting this week in Basra may be a prelude to the moratorium's collapse and, with it, the resumption of wide-scale sectarian violence—Shiite vs. Sunni and Shiite vs. Shiite.

Many Shiites believe—not unreasonably—that Maliki ordered the offensive in Basra now in order to destroy Sadr's base of support and thus keep his party from beating ISCI in the upcoming provincial elections.

Late last month, Iraq's three-man presidential council vetoed a bill calling for provincial elections, in large part because ISCI's leaders feared that Sadr's party would win in Basra. The Bush administration, which has (correctly) regarded provincial elections as key to Iraqi reconciliation, pressured Maliki to reverse his stance and let the bill go through. He did—at which point (was this just a coincidence?) planning began for the offensive that's raging now.

Maliki's official reason for the offensive, simply to bring order, has some plausibility, because Basra—Iraq's second-largest city, a major port, and a huge supplier of oil—is teetering on the edge of anarchy. At the start of the occupation, British forces were put in charge of Basra, but they viewed their operation as passive peacekeeping, not counterinsurgency, so militias moved in and gradually took the place over. By the time the British withdrew to the outskirts, the city was already taken over by fractious warlords.

The current fighting in Basra is a struggle for power and resources between those warlords. It's hard to say which faction is more alluring or less likely to fall under Iranian sway. Neither seems the sort of ally in freedom and democracy that our president conjures in his daydreams. (The lively blogger who calls himself Abu Muqawama speculates that Bush officials have embraced ISCI because, unlike Sadr, its leaders speak English.)

It's not a case of good vs. evil. It's just another crevice in the widening earthquake called Iraq.

slate.com



To: Brumar89 who wrote (375391)3/29/2008 2:21:48 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578501
 
"You're right. I should have supported earmarks for hookers in the 2005 appropriations bill."

Fallacy: Red Herring

Also Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase.
Description of Red Herring

A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

1. Topic A is under discussion.
2. Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
3. Topic A is abandoned.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.
Examples of Red Herring

# "We admit that this measure is popular. But we also urge you to note that there are so many bond issues on this ballot that the whole thing is getting ridiculous."

# "Argument" for a tax cut:

"You know, I've begun to think that there is some merit in the Republican's tax cut plan. I suggest that you come up with something like it, because If we Democrats are going to survive as a party, we have got to show that we are as tough-minded as the Republicans, since that is what the public wants."

# "Argument" for making grad school requirements stricter:

"I think there is great merit in making the requirements stricter for the graduate students. I recommend that you support it, too. After all, we are in a budget crisis and we do not want our salaries affected."