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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (27182)	3/30/2008 1:10:04 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

"Do you see a difference between what Condi Rice is saying and the message that Senator Obama is carrying to the American people from Pastor Wright?" Is somebody ELSE speaking 'for' Rice? (As you seem to be asserting in connection with Sen. Obama....) Maybe a college professor of her's... or her Minister, or something? (Seems to me that Obama is plenty articulate enough to be able to speak for HIMSELF... and that he --- same as Rice --- should be judged on what he actually says... not what other people say.)

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (27182)	3/30/2008 7:31:57 PM
From: Mr. Palau	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

" Freepers turn on Condi Rice over comments on Obama's speech on race by: pam Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 07:00:00 AM EDT Did I call it or not? You'll recall that the denizens of the Free Republic were huge fans of Condoleezza Rice - in fact there was a draft Condi in 08 movement there. However, I was certain once she commented positively about Obama's speech about race, the love affair would be OVER in the swamps. These are the mild, straightforward comments that landed Dr. Rice in the conservative dog house. "Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together - Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding." As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, "descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that." "That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said. Miss Rice declined to comment on the campaign, saying only that it was "important" that Mr. Obama "gave it for a whole host of reasons." She wasn't claiming victim status, she was simply making a statement of fact that opening up an honest conversation about race is necessary -- and that it is difficult to do so. See the Freeper filth below the fold; I think the reaction should tell black folks in the GOP where they stand should they dare to acknowledge the existence of white privilege in this country. You can be at the highest levels of government, work hard for your wealth and join that country club, but in the end, you're still an uppity nigger if you mention the obvious legacy of this country when it comes to slavery, Jim Crow -- or even suggest that our country needs to move forward by talking about it, not denying it. pam :: Freepers turn on Condi Rice over comments on Obama's speech on race This was back in the day: And now? Not only do they stoop to naked racism, they toss in a serving of misogyny as well. Actual Freeper Quotes Ms. Rice.....your forefathers were betrayed by their brothers....and sold into slavery. The white man brought them here to help settle this country..... and God blessed you in that white men helped set them free......so you could be blessed even more......by being born to live in the greatest nation on earth....with freedom and prosperity. She's got bad teeth, no boobs and loves the Palestinians and other enemies of Israel and the U.S.! How could ANY patriot want Sleeza for VP? I didn't realize Rice was hoping to run with Obama, yet that's how bad these comments are. This is a sad commentary. I used to respect this woman. Just dang... Racism of a couple a hundred years ago is a birth defect? Well honey, you just made the case for euthanasia. What a maroon. Ms Rice, you're a typical RINO. Yes your people came here as Negro slaves, were freed by the courage of one true Republican but then again enslaved to a new Master - the Federal government which drugged your people back into submission with handouts that sent a message that "You're incapable of making life better for yourself; you need government in order to survive." So Ms Rice, direct your comments to the Democrat party and its co-leader Barak Hussein Obama and his socialism and what it means for your people. Oh, one last question, can you tell us why the Asian Americans and Latino Americans in the same span of time that the "Great Society" has been in place, have managed to integrate themselves into societal entrepreneurship so effectively - why is having dark skin more of a handicap than having slanted eyes or being unable to speak the language? Is she getting ready to back the candidacy of B. Hussein Obama, or what???? clue condi seems to have been praying at the alter of rev run wright and b. HUSSEIN'S racist church...no wonder clue condi is such a fan of the f'n pali muzzie terrorists and wants to fund their terrorism of Israel...jorge bush should get rid of this incompetent...and many republicans want this a-hole as a VP??? No doubt... I wonder if Rice spoke of these things and the reporters at the Times ignored those parts of the interview, or if she even bothered to address those issues at all... I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as a fellow conservative, but I'd like to hear her say SOMETHING about this - perhaps a personal press release, a speech, or something where we can hear everything she has to say and not just what the MSM chooses to print??? What scares me about all of this is I'm beginning to wonder if the Dems did this (pushed Obama forward) on purpose in an attempt to keep the Black Community under their thumbs and set back the progress they have achieved over the last 40 years? And, no doubt, the MSM loves anything that bleeds - even if it's our own citizens, so I'm sure they'd love nothing better than to drive a further wedge between people just HOPING for something juicy to sell papers with - like a riot... As far as I'm concerned, she just jumped the shark. I guess all the talk of her intelligence and education was just hype. Just like HRC. Condi is another mealy mouth dufus. In pure pander mode. This is the least racist nation on the planet. Tons of affirmative action and welfare money available. If you don't like it GTFO. Find a better place to live like Zimbabwe maybe Maybe she should go back to Africa, where she could get a "founding" experience. pamshouseblend.com