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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (244003)	3/30/2008 6:05:34 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793670

I, and many, many white Americans have been determined to end the bitter hatred between the black and white communities. For years, our leaders have encouraged the nation to look beyond race. LBJ and congress and law makers all over this nation have made sure that we are all equal. Americans have spent billions of dollars..........maybe trillions............and fought wars over race all in an effort to over come racial hatred. This man made it clear to me that it has to work both ways, and he and his followers have decided that they refuse to change. So I don't agree with the Rabbi's analysis. Jeremiah Wright is a bigot and a racist. He is the one that needs repudiating, and Obama hasn't really done that. Any sane person knows that to slander people is unacceptable, but because Obama sat there listening to Rev Wright for 20 yrs he's left the impression that it's ok as long as the person being slandered is white. He needs to do a lot more explaining than he already has, and I'd bet that conservative Jewish congregation agrees with me.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (244003)	3/31/2008 12:13:49 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793670

Counterpoint on your rabbi's defense of Obama.... First, your rabbi’s example (Holocaust survivor) is NOT a candidate for POTUS. That “survivor” is not a person who hopes to lead ALL Americans, not just the black folks of his church. Obama is a candidate for POTUS. Slavery was abolished after the Civil War and that was about 150 years ago. We don’t know that Obama was EVER touched personally by slavery. Even so, the rabbi went on, slavery is the American Holocaust. It is the morally repugnant and inexcusable blot on America that continues to define the African American struggle for equality and full participation in American life and society. While you can't excuse Reverend Wright's remarks, you have an obligation to understand them in the context. The context of the Holocaust survivor's reaction to interaction with Germans, it seems to me, struck the right note. I disagree with your rabbi. Slavery is NOT the American Holocaust. The Holocaust was a WORLD “morally repugnant and inexcusable blot”, that much of the World Countries did nothing to prevent but rather took the pacifist view, and stood by and watched it happen. On top of that, those people would not take Jews into their country, even if they had managed to escape from their vile murderers. No, it took AMERICA and the Allies of America to rid Germany and the World of that terrible terrible terrible stain on its fabric. I know of two people who were Holocaust survivors and NEVER heard them say ANYTHING like Jeremiah Wright. EVER. And the Holocaust happened to THEM and to their families, not 5 or 6 generations of people who lived during slavery. I know of NO Jews or any of their descendants who have not gone on with their lives, or who think that for centuries in the future, that people who are alive in those future years will bear the blame for the terrible things that happened under Hitler. And your statement here: He dismissed the Jewish right's notions that Obama would be hostile to Israel, noting that every president has been a friend of Israel, because every president recognizes the facts of the region and the place of Israel in America's relationships and interests. Perhaps your rabbi hasn’t read the writings of Malcom X, who was the friend and inspiration of Farrakhan and Farrakhan is evidently a mentor for “Rev Jeremiah Wright.” And Wright doesn’t seem to be anything but anti-Semitic if we are to believe some of his words. So, since Obama didn’t change churches, and sat and listened to sermons for 20 years, don’t you think he agreed with what Wright was saying? Obama certainly could have said, but didn’t, that he didn’t agree with Wright about that, or am I mistaken? I think, since ABC broke the news in the first place, and then FOX, that not only these two groups, but many others have all the tapes as well, since they were on the Church site to purchase….we will hear more of Wrights views. I do agree with Hillary on this part. I would NOT have stayed in my seat if I heard any of what we have heard so far, and would NOT have continued my support of that church.