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To: Ilaine who wrote (32084)	4/1/2008 7:46:27 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217570

Before we can start a meaning discussion, let me make certain of your stance on Ukraine and Nato - is what you figured your prediction or your wish? My prediction, Nato will split asunder per ordained cyclical imperative that says all organizations come to an end, disunity follows unity, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, so on and so forth. Do you suppose the wine drinkers will want to face down Islamic infusion at home and at the same time standing up to the Russians who have choking hand on their gas pipe, and deal with drawdown of manufacturing to the East, and excuse self from obligations of socialism? The old model is finished. Further commitment to that model will simply assure a complete breakdown. For the neo-cons such as yourself to count ruling the world by leveraging on the armies of Poland and workers of Romania is like figuring on the power of S.Vietnam and steadfastness of Philippines. The old model never really worked. Nato is both past its use-by date, and about to morph into something more useful to the locals per new imperatives, and carrying on the invasion of Afghanistan cannot be a genuine imperative as the situation continues to turn dire and against the empire, as all invaders of that land eventually learns the very hard way. Whatever the new agenda of Nato or neo-Nato or no-Nato, it will dramatically diverge from your narrow and selfish interest or wish. What has been accomplished so far in tragic Afghanistan by the Empire is that poppy production is up, death of women and children is up, rule of any sort of law is down, although, I must say, the Middle Kingdom is trying best to ameliorate the situation by investing in iron mines, building infrastructure, setting up schools, staffing hospitals, as it is getting on with building out the oil fields in Mesopotamia and carving out a niche in Persia. Alas, all constructive efforts will take time to fruition, whereas destruction can be rained down when human lives are not valued, and torture championed by the elected officialdom.

To: Ilaine who wrote (32084)	4/1/2008 8:25:08 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217570

LOL... CB, now you're needling Mr. Chen :O) NATO has become mostly Team USA, (or headed that way) they really should change the name :O) All numbers in millions. US trade w/ Russia Jan 2008 - 558 exports, 1706 imports, total 2264. US trade w /Canada Jan 2008 - 20409 exports, 26274 imports, total 46683 US trade w/ China Jan 2008 - 5855 exports, 26168 imports, total 32023 (a palindromic trade situation LOL). NOT seasonally adjusted... so does that mean not hedonically altered ?... I dunno... Anyway that might be called sleeping with the enemy :O) **You must be thinking about gardening by now .... we have some early narcissus, snowdrops and crocus sprouting but we had much more snow than usual so not nearly as much green as we typically have this time of year .. but it is dissipating rapidly... The Black Swan Source census.gov

To: Ilaine who wrote (32084)	4/2/2008 3:41:34 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 217570

You consider China more an enemy but not Russia ? Count Nuclear Missiles which can reach the Contiental US - China 35 or 36, and only the ones in North East China will be able to reach Florida. Russia - About 400 + , many MIRVed, with very high throw weights. Russia has a good size submarine missile force still, and some high speed bombers. One country has spend billions and billions creating a threat to the existence of the United States. The other country has a small deterrent capability, most likely to deter their historically aggressive neighbors - Japan, Russia - and various imperialist powers - UK, Japan, Russia, etc. It bet China would much rather be next to Mexico than Japan. Want to trade ? Try this : There has been and still is a de facto economic alliance between the US and China. It is an uneasy alliance, but it is there.