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Strategies & Market Trends : 2026 TeoTwawKi ... 2032 Darkest Interregnum -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GPS Info who wrote (32349)	4/5/2008 7:39:09 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 217942

maurice cannot help it he dreams he is getting to me but all he is doing is flapping around like a fruit fly flapping around on the floor while i am playing computer games, i.e. could not be bothered because what must be will be, and the passage of beautiful time increases the pleasure immeasurably, as we journey towards teotwawki dawn

To: GPS Info who wrote (32349)	4/5/2008 11:14:41 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217942

Hi GPS, as you can see from TJ's reply, he is coping admirably with the comment about cowardice in the face of China's brutality and suppression. I did run it through the check system before writing it and decided that while borderline, it was good and made a fair point. As you say, discretion is the better part of valour, and in TJ's position, I think my cowardice levels would rise significantly. There are not many such fights one can enter. One must choose the one that one can choose to join carefully because as so many in China have found, they do only get one chance. Nevertheless, to not confront evil when it is endemic is in fact cowardice whether such cowardice is popular or not. I don't think I'd be signing a free trade agreement with China. Free trade agreements might be fit for like-minded participants. China in fact pollutes the commons and does not recognize much in the way of civil norms. Borders are for protecting countries. Tariffs are a way of assigning value to the evil-doing of other countries who socialize their costs of pollution and other hazards to others, and keep the benefits. I don't see anything wrong with tariffs. When people are friends of slave drivers and criminals, or simply defend them, it's not of much consequence if they don't like the commentary they get as a result. When push really comes to shove and people are either with us or against us, then good manners and etiquette are soon gone by the boards. When "we" push the "nuke Beijing" button to stop them doing what Japan tried, then "good manners" are somewhat academic. Best that people lose face and know what's coming if they persevere with megalomania. China in fact is threatening not just ugly public confrontation, but is threatening murder and is in fact shooting escaping people in the back. Those such as TJ who like such things, are not softies who are offended by being identified as such. They are PROUD of what they do. The Germans kept quite good score of their victims and no doubt awarded each other "great success" medals. <Getting bitch slapped during negotiations by NZ trade representatives would seem to be a bad diplomatic move. I would still like to know if this style of salesmanship has ever worked for you. Has TJ ever warmed to this approach of yours. > I'm indifferent to a free trade agreement with China. If they want to buy from NZ, that's up to them, if they don't that's also up to them. Same for NZ. If we want to buy Made in China, we will, if not, we won't. Charging import taxes on their products makes much more sense that charging ourselves loads of taxation to do things to protect the commons such as cutting CO2 emissions which you might notice China is not bothering with. Not that I think it's a worry. I haven't dealt with customers shooting innocents in the back. So I haven't used that style of salesmanship on them. I think I'd be more likely to shoot them in the face than sell them something. TJ and ilk can't be sold on such things. They have their ideology and love it. Have you ever trying converting true believers? Best to go to the beach. Or just move on to more sensible prospects. If they are dangerous, then it's not a matter of selling, it's a matter of lining up sufficient weaponry that they think better of their evil plans. Fortunately, the USA has a LOT of weaponry lined up. Unfortunately, they deploy it in ways with which I disagree, all too often. TJ and I are in agreement for example on the invasion of Iraq. I didn't mind if King George II wanted to play "I'm tougher than you" with Saddam, but I didn't think it was the best course of action and didn't believe there were WMDs to worry about. I'm not normally rude, but when people come at me, or behave in or support criminal enterprise, they are going to find resistance. Sometimes people need to be confronted with what they are doing for them to realize what they are doing. While they are on a roll, they think it's a law of nature that they rule the world. Mqurice