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To: TobagoJack who wrote (32390)	4/6/2008 10:55:45 AM
From: nonrev	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219890

Seems the Founding Fathers were thinking somewhat like TJ.. ....... When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson ……………… "Thomas Jefferson "-- "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." ……………. "If Americans ever allow banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless." ~ Thomas Jefferson …………… James Madison in 1785: ...it is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of Citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The free men of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. ………………..

To: TobagoJack who wrote (32390)	4/6/2008 11:58:19 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 219890

i>i think the american leadership is not afraid of its own people Yep totally agree... said that upstream somewhere... oh here.. to Mq.. Message 24472701 The Black Swan

To: TobagoJack who wrote (32390)	4/6/2008 8:23:13 PM
From: Gib Bogle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219890

"fear is healthy, respect will follow, and happiness will tag along" That sounds like something The Great Helmsman might have said. He certainly put a great deal of thought and effort into instilling fear among his subjects, even those at the highest level. Have you read "Mao: The Unknown Story", by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday? Highly recommended. It is clear that Mao was at least on a par with Hitler and Stalin. Khrushchev, who had plenty of contact with both, said "When I look at Mao, I see Stalin, a perfect copy." What is amazing, and rather disgusting, is that the current regime in China persists in supporting the myth of Mao. This is presumably because they know that their legitimacy depends on his, since over the 40-odd years of his rule he shaped the party in his image. Deng was a great man, but even he only dared to rate Mao as 30% bad, perhaps because to go further would have threatened his own legitimacy. China needs a Khrushchev. By the way, CCP crimes against Tibetans pale into almost total insignificance in comparison with their crimes against the Chinese people. About 30 million died in a few years during the Great Leap Forward.