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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sully- who wrote (65434)	4/8/2008 11:29:36 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

ROTFLMAO!!! I know more and understand the world better than Senator Obama for cripes sake! ***************************** Obama: 'I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain.' The Campaign Spot Jim Geraghty Reporting Obama at a recent fundraiser: <<< "Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain." "It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags 'I've met leaders from eighty countries'—I know what those trips are like! I've been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There's a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then—you go. "You do that in eighty countries—you don't know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa—knowing the leaders is not important—what I know is the people. . . . "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college—I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . ." >>> Word of the Pakistan trip was new to me, as well as the Politico's Ben Smith. I'm not doubting the senator's word on this, but isn't it surprising that it never came up during the whole, "I would not hesitate to use military force in Pakistan" brouhaha of last year? This appears to be the first time Obama has mentioned his trip to Pakistan in his public career. campaignspot.nationalreview.com 04/07 01:40 PM

To: Sully- who wrote (65434)	4/8/2008 11:42:51 AM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 90947

No surprises there...I don't think I have been to see a Stone film since "Wall Street"....

To: Sully- who wrote (65434)	4/8/2008 11:43:33 AM
From: Bill	Respond to of 90947

I can't help thinking Stone could have made a fortune doing a movie about Clinton's White House. Sex sells.

To: Sully- who wrote (65434)	4/8/2008 2:29:39 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

JFK is a masterpiece, one of the best films of the nineties, a fever dream of lies and rationalizations, and one of the most penetrating looks at how the liberal mind works as you’ll ever see. Biographers: “W” Script Not Accurate… Well, Duh. By Dirty Harry on General Libertas In a rare burst of curiosity through authentic journalism, The Hollywood Reporter sent a recent draft of Oliver Stone’s “W” to a number of historians for a fact fisking. The obvious has been discovered: <<< Reactions to the script from the biographers were mixed. They said specific scenes are largely based in fact but noted that the screenplay contains inaccurate and over-the-top caricatures of Bush and his inner circle. … “The problem here is it goes to this notion of Bush as being the passive receiver of policy and the White House being run by (Dick) Cheney, (Donald) Rumsfeld, (Karl) Rove and others,” Draper said. “Bush’s adversaries have been ill-served by this belief that Bush is an observer to his own presidency. This notion that his schedule is driven by what’s on ESPN is ludicrous.” >>> Stone’s methodology is not about truth or facts, it’s about his vision. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. He’s a mad-genius driven by a need to reorder the universe in a way which justifies his desire to retain a belief in it. JFK is a masterpiece, one of the best films of the nineties, a fever dream of lies and rationalizations, and one of the most penetrating looks at how the liberal mind works as you’ll ever see. Stone and his kind can’t live with the fact that their hero, John F. Kennedy, started that dreaded war in Vietnam. Those two things cannot reconcile themselves in the liberal mind, one run on childish emotion rather than facts. And so, Stone muscles history with all his talents and has Kennedy assassinated for wanting to withdraw from Vietnam. Assassinated not by Communists, but anti-Communists and the military industrial complex. And no, the patsy Oswald cannot be a Communist, either. No, no… He was an anti-Communist; he was one of them. Ahh, now the world’s set right. Now, the world makes sense again. As far as “W” goes, let Oliver Stone be Oliver Stone. A director’s genius is his vision, and what summons that vision is not for we mortals to tamper with. Stone will bully whatever he must to make things right in his head, and who knows what that will look like when he’s done, but the turning of Stone’s gears always fascinates. And fear not, Stone cannot affect history. In spite of Stone, and thanks to science and computer technology, post-JFK, the conventional wisdom has taken a healthy turn towards “Oswald worked alone.” Stone stirred up the controversy and what followed was a fact-based deconstruction of his own film. Ha. History always digs up the truth, and even if he fancies himself one, Stone’s no historian. He’s a filmmaker, and one of the few remaining I’m thankful for. Yeah, he gets under my skin. That’s what good directors do. And after twelve painfully dull, unchallenging anti-war polemics, it wouldn’t be so bad to feel agitated in a darkened theatre again. libertyfilmfestival.com