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To: KyrosL who wrote (58325)	4/9/2008 2:05:51 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542999

since all our blue collar workers will be occupied building all the new power plants and associated infrastructure. Once all those power plants get built, where will those blue collar workers go for jobs? The reason there are no good blue collar jobs is because we have not gotten off our butts to formulate an industrial policy of energy independence. And how will our global trade problem still be the fault off our lack of energy independence? And if it isn't, what then will then be at fault?

To: KyrosL who wrote (58325)	4/9/2008 2:07:59 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 542999

Yes, while that analysis may be a good one, it does not address the present political issue, that rising worries about the effects of global trade may well bring trade agreements to a halt.

To: KyrosL who wrote (58325)	4/9/2008 2:20:48 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542999

Kyros3; In other words, global trade appears to be a problem only because we don't have the imagination, savings, and political will to solve our energy dependence problem, which, by the way, creates the lion's share of our trade deficit. Very interesting comments. I agree with you here. But would add it is also a lack of willingness by corporate America to make the right investments here in America. A culture of greed rather than a culture of doing what is right in the long term for America. No better place to see this than in the auto industry. Toyoto can make cars here and make money - why can't we? steve

To: KyrosL who wrote (58325)	4/9/2008 2:29:41 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542999

I am not sure if you have visited countries like China and India recently. I was lucky enough to do so. You can notice a shift in wealth and prosperity from the US to these countries. With their new found wealth, they are involuntarily putting further pressure on US prosperity by increasing their demand for gasoline to drive their new cars. Now if the solution to restore the balance in favor of the US is tree hugging, then I am sorry to say that such primitive concepts will take the US further down into the hole.

To: KyrosL who wrote (58325)	4/9/2008 8:15:51 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 542999

The main way trade "destroys" jobs is by increasing efficiency and productivity. Its not just doing this in the US, its doing this in China, where manufacturing is shrinking as a percentage of the workforce, or even in terms of total manufacturing. employment (with people shifting to services, construction and other areas). The problem with trying to oppose these jobs "losses" is 1 - We aren't really losing jobs over time, and 2 - Increased productivity and efficiency is the only way to increase wealth in the long run.