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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (377340)	4/9/2008 6:14:26 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579732

I only bothered to learn the +/-1 counting systems, which any pit boss can catch if he or she is paying attention. (Bet swing ratios of 10:1 automatically trigger red flags.) I wonder if the more advanced counting systems, such as the +/-2 systems (don't know what the conventional term is), require smaller betting swings. When I first started counting I worried about getting caught -- before I realized that that most major places literally didn't give a damn unless you are playing heavy black -- which I don't do. The simple balanced systems like Hi/Lo give you about 85-90% of the efficiency of the systems involving different values, and I suspect that for most people when you add different values for different cards the error rate increase offsets the additional value gained. Peter Griffin, in his excellent mathematical treatise on the subject, gets deeply into these unbalance counting methods -- I never even tried one. At any rate, casinos are so far ahead of the game now you really spend more time looking for a good game than you can playing. Most major casinos have gone to 6/5 payoffs on naturals, which renders the game unbeatable under any circumstances. When you find a Double Deck game, they tend to only deal one deck, which gives you at best a breakeven situation -- occasionally you find one cutting off 1/4 of the cards, and when you do you can KILL them, but that's rare anymore. I'll still count and beat a 6/8 deck shoe with only one or two players at the table, but you just seldom find that other than at oddball hours anymore. It just isn't what it used to be, and I suspect the casinos will be flooded with would-be card counters who will not pick up the nuances of the game and be even bigger losers than before. But it was fun back in the day to know you could walk in and beat them at their own game -- that was the appeal of it to me.