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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (16923)4/9/2008 10:39:46 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Discussion on global warming is a pastime of the affluent and those colored by political dogmas. Ask the world community if it needs to up there in priority when there are other pressing issues like hunger, disease and war triggered by differences in race, religion etc. e.g. Darfur.

I don't know whether global warming is real or not but I don't think it would hurt the earth to reverse some of the conditions that worry environmentalists. And I think that's just as true for the poor smuck in Africa as it is the poor smuck in Chicago.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (16923)4/10/2008 10:57:22 PM
From: RetiredNow  Respond to of 149317
 
Wow, Chinu. I have to disagree with you. Hunger and poverty won't matter very much if we destroy the only world we have to live on. I know there is a lot of misinformation out there, but there is a global scientific consensus that CO2 increases in the atmosphere are reaching harmful levels, those rate of increase in those CO2 levels is accelerating, and man's actions are the prime contributor to those CO2 increases. We are already well on our way to creating trillions of dollars worth of human suffering in our children's lifetimes, if we continue down the current path.

Anyway, if you think the environmental part of it is a hoax, then you can't deny that being oil dependent is hurting our national and economic security. Pick a reason to become energy independent:
1) if you care about national security, then energy independence means we don't have to fight wars in the Middle East to secure our oil supplies and we don't have to get hostile with China when they grow even more energy hungry
2) if you care about our economy, then energy independence means we don't have to beg the Middle East to give us a break on oil
3) if you care about the environment, then energy independence and use of alternatives can reduce carbon emissions

It's a two-fer if you don't believe in climate change or a three-fer if you do. Either way, every American with a brain should be for investing our money in energy independence, instead of spending $250B a year in Iraq.