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To: Rolla Coasta who wrote (32818)	4/10/2008 3:20:32 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 219612

Rolla, you are happy to have unnatural in everything else, so it's interesting that your wish to enforce women select offspring using chimpanzee methods. Even the Amish use horse and cart rather than natural methods of transport, namely walking. Your food supplies aren't things you find running around and growing out in the jungle. Anyway, it's clear how your mind works. You will get the consequences of your thinking, good and hard, relentless and merciless, as nature does. Unfortunately, you are likely to take others with you down the gurgler. The History channel showed bulldozers shoveling people into pits last night which is the consequence of megalomaniac thinking like yours. They were the victims of state-run eugenics processes, where the state decided who should breed and who should not, which logically carried on to who should live and who should not. I say leave women alone to run their lives how they like and select children who they choose. You and your Big Brother state want to be in charge. No doubt grabbing girls, as you put it, when you feel the need. What is interesting is how many women vote for more of the same. Few choose freedom and Libertarian ideas. On an individual basis, they often choose men who are fit only for prison, or are actually in prison. Weird, but that's the natural world for you. Even so, I say women should decide who they want to be the father of their offspring. There is a boy in Canada named after our son [who the Canadian mother went to school with in Japan]. The boy's father was a Korean immigrant to Canada [perhaps he was born in Canada, but his parents were immigrants]. He was involved in shooting somebody in the process of a crime, and criminal things in general. He was imprisoned. Subsequently he killed himself. The boy is an amazing little ninja guy, highly intelligent, capable and is apparently excellent. Perhaps the mother did an excellent job of choosing. We'll know in a few more generations, but so far, so very good. It's best not to mess with mothers. Unfortunately, all too many guys like you want to be the boss and tell them what they can and can not decide for themselves and their offspring. Mqurice

To: Rolla Coasta who wrote (32818)	4/10/2008 9:20:20 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219612

You might find this interesting springerlink.com Abstract Understanding female sexuality and mate choice is central to evolutionary scenarios of human social systems. Studies of female sexuality conducted by sex researchers in the United States since 1938 indicate that human females in general are concerned with their sexual well-being and are capable of sexual response parallel to that of males. Across cultures in general and in western societies in particular, females engage in extramarital affairs regularly, regardless of punishment by males or social disapproval. Families are usually concerned with marriage arrangements only insofar as those arrangements are economically or politically advantageous, but females most often have a voice in arranged marriages. Extended families also concentrate on a couple’s future reproduction rather than on sexual exclusivity. Although marriage for females is often compromised by male or family reproductive interests (which may not in fact differ from female interests), females appear to exercise their sexuality with more freedom than has previously been suggested. Notions of human females as pawns in the male reproductive game, or as traders of sex for male services, should be dispelled.