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To: LindyBill who wrote (245493)4/12/2008 5:20:00 AM
From: JDN  Respond to of 793919
 
His comments are crude IMHO but from my point of view it also indicates HOW STRONGLY Obama is AGAINST the right for the average citizen to bear arms. jdn



To: LindyBill who wrote (245493)4/12/2008 5:30:14 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793919
 
Can you say, "Let me rephrase that?" In Obama's cleaned-up version, religion ("faith") becomes something small town people "can count on," along with community and family, rather than something they "cling to" on account of being "bitter," along with guns and hatred of immigrants and others "who aren't like them." That's a nice try, I guess, but it's hard to believe it will fool anyone.

It will fool those who want to be fooled, who include all current Obama supporters and most of the MSM.

The open question is how it plays with the undecideds in Pa. Not well enough I should guess. Obama greatest area of vulnerability is being painted as a naive egghead reformer. He just provided ammo for the effort. For once, both Hillary and McCain can sing from the same songsheet with equal gusto.



To: LindyBill who wrote (245493)4/12/2008 2:57:38 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793919
 
I just noticed something about Obama's cleaned up, rephrased comment about small Pa manufacturing towns,

People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect anybody is going to help them

The implication is that if only those voters understood the reality of the situation, they would vote for Obama, because he really will help them this time.

I'm not seeing any understanding that the Federal government cannot order prosperity to return to any region or state, it can only direct some Federal largess in that direction.



To: LindyBill who wrote (245493)4/12/2008 3:43:44 PM
From: MJ  Respond to of 793919
 
Notice that in San Francisco he says nothing about gay marriage or lesbianism. Instead he criticized the Americans in smaller towns for their traditional ways of living.

Then when he changed his San Francisco remarks as he spoke in Indiana he is talking about Gay marriage but doesn't say where he stands on the question.

Says one thing in San Francisco and another elsewhere.

mj