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To: Bridge Player who wrote (59160)	4/14/2008 12:24:49 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542883

Did you read his latest speech? You know, given his experience as a community organizer, you'd think he would be well suited to dealing with Rust Belt problems. And he probably would be on the street. But from the WH he offers more of what contributed to the problems in the first place. "It's time we had a President who didn't choke saying the word "union." We need to strengthen our unions by letting them do what they do best - organize our workers. If a majority of workers want a union, they should get a union, no matter whether they're full-time, or part-time, or contract workers. And that is why I will fight for and why I intend to sign the Employee Free Choice Act when it lands on my desk in the White House." Lord love a duck! Unionizing contract workers? Moderate? Ya gotta be kidding. I get a kick out of the names they come up with. Employee Free Choice Act to combat state Right to Work laws. Which do you want, mister, free choice or the right to work? LOL.

To: Bridge Player who wrote (59160)	4/14/2008 3:16:21 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542883

IMO McCain is right of center, although pretty far left of many hard-line conservatives, Hillary is left of center although right of many hard-line leftists, and Obama is far left of Hillary. In fact, the National Journal rates his 2007 voting record in the Senate as the most liberal. Hillary ranks as 16th most liberal. If you are going to quote the National Journal ratings, you might wish to take a look at how they made the rankings. I'm told it's quite odd. As for Obama being "far left" of Clinton, it ain't so. They are both reasonably well situated in the moderate wing of the Dem party. He's a bit left of her because he refuses to affiliate with the DLC. But there are specific policy issues on which folk who think the left/right distinction makes sense, would place her to his left. Health insurance would certainly be one. I just don't find these particular distinctions very helpful (though I do use them, on occasion). We don't really have a serious left in this country, not, at least, in the way there is a left in Europe.